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Posted: Fri, 14th Mar 2003, 8:47am

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Robersdee

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Episode 3.1415962...

The story takes place shortly after the defeat of Count Dooku and the Trade Federation. However, there still exist small groups of rogue dark jedi throughout the galaxy. One of the especially crazed and deragned dark jedis has found his way to Kearns High School, where he intends to set up a sith temple. Kearns High's only hope is a group of students, hastily trained by Jedi Master Smoda.
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Posted: Fri, 14th Mar 2003, 5:41pm

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its very entertaining.
some faults on the shot composition
but it looks you had alot of fun making the movie
fast pace edited kept my attention
yoda, very nice done. is artisanal puppet work very cool
for all that hard work, and entertaining me as a pro...
ill give you a +5!!
Go for the top10!

keep up the good work !
Posted: Fri, 14th Mar 2003, 5:47pm

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Very good work all in all

Pros:

- Some relaly clever shots, like the feet in the air thing, I really enjoyed that
- Good use of music... fit very well
- Cool setting for the final battle, the lights really gave it atmosphere
- Of course, good use of lightsaber effects and some decent choreography...the dark jedi defending against the three of you at once was a great scene.
- Yoda looked great!


Cons:

- Didn't care for the transitions or fades a whole lot...I think regular cuts would've worked better.
- A few awkward cuts



Some great work guys, look forward to seeing more
Posted: Fri, 14th Mar 2003, 7:16pm

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What settings did you use to export that? I'm trying to make my movies as large as possible on here because there are little things to notice in them. Right now, my 4 minute, 280x200 film is at 29mb. You can see my dilemma.
Posted: Fri, 14th Mar 2003, 8:20pm

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My video is ACTUALLY 64mb. Which is ridiculous!
Posted: Fri, 14th Mar 2003, 8:25pm

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Bob Page

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try to change the sound to mono, Aculag
Posted: Fri, 14th Mar 2003, 9:04pm

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And take the framerate down to 12.
Posted: Fri, 14th Mar 2003, 9:09pm

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It could've been better without the hype, but it was still pretty funny. The generic lightsaber-thru head stuff was great. But the clashes looked like junk.

And you totally wasted that teacher.

And yoda was cool.
Posted: Fri, 14th Mar 2003, 9:49pm

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Hmm, I can hear it, but I can't see it. Me no like!
Posted: Fri, 14th Mar 2003, 10:23pm

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Thanks for the help. That worked famously.
Posted: Fri, 14th Mar 2003, 10:37pm

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I still reserve the fact that its 3.141592653 and so on. Sillies.
Posted: Fri, 14th Mar 2003, 10:48pm

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That didn't make sense...
Posted: Fri, 14th Mar 2003, 11:30pm

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Bob Page

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LtMcMurphy wrote:

Hmm, I can hear it, but I can't see it. Me no like!
Install DIVX 5.03
www.divx.com
Posted: Fri, 14th Mar 2003, 11:42pm

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Robersdee

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Thanks for the comments guys, and about the codecs I used. I just used DivX5.03 for the video, and the FHG Radium codec for the audio. Then used VirtualDub to use these codecs.
There are several tutorials about it on these forums, just look around a little.

And I know this movie isn't perfect, from the first day of filming to completion it took about 2 weeks. We also ran into all kinds of problems like breaking an 8x6 foot window and having our dark jedi rip up the ligaments in his ankle and so on.

-Fett
Posted: Sat, 15th Mar 2003, 3:58am

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Well, i give it a 4. Lots of ALam effects and they were done fairly well. Had some cool shots like the Jedi force pulling the saber to his hand and blocking in the same motion and I liked the Sith jumping up on the stage by running the footage backward. Yoda sounded almost perfect. Had some funny moments too like the lightsaber getting stuck in that guys head. Cracked me up at the end in the credits... I doubt Danny Bueno will put that he played the part of Random Death 5 in his acting resume. razz

Editing was pretty sloppy. You should use more cut edits to tighten things up- didn't quite get why R2 was in the hallways outside of the fact you just wanted to see if you could put R2 in the film somewhere. Audio was all captured from the built-in camera mic (a big no no)- the Star Wars logo at the beginning should zoom off into infinity and fade instead of freeze-framing then fading (if you wanted to be like the originals) and it definitely smacked of high-school \ no plot \ cheesy over acting \ drama class project, and yet despite all those flaws I still enjoyed most of it and I appreciated the work that went into it. Can't show it to my kids though- A little too much violence (even as cartoonish as it was)

Keep it up and work to improve. If that's what you did in 2 weeks, imagine what you can do if you actually put in some effort to develop a plot, some costumes, etc.

Jeremy
Posted: Sat, 15th Mar 2003, 4:08am

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Know when I talk about lightsaber deaths, that's exactly what I mean.

Nothing makes me appreciate a movie more than stylsh deaths like a lightsaber through the noggin.
Posted: Sat, 15th Mar 2003, 5:50am

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Klown wrote:

Cons:

- Didn't care for the transitions or fades a whole lot...I think regular cuts would've worked better.
I watched the movie right as it came out last night and posted my critique on the original thread, so I am going to use this post to come to Fett's defense. First of all, Klown, I agree with you on your preference of cuts (it looks more professional) in most cases. But in the case of a Star Wars fan film (where I presume the objective is to mimic the general look of Star Wars) that a few wipes are a necessity. If you have seen Star Wars 1 and 2, you have undoubtedly noticed they were both full of wipes--right, left, up, down, even a few clockwise.
Posted: Sat, 15th Mar 2003, 3:57pm

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You've reached your bandwidth limit. Either get a new server, or try and extend it, please. lol
Posted: Sat, 15th Mar 2003, 4:23pm

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I liked this movie much, but I have one question. How did your film in your High School? If I even tried to bring anything larger than a stick in MY school, they'll bust me for some sort of weapon. My friends and I filmed a movie in the backstage theater, where none of the roaming guards could get us, but that's all we could do.

I liked the video and audio quality, nice job. I also liked all the Star Wars tie-ins placed around. When I saw the Star Destroyer, I was sure there was trouble a-brewin'. The introduction of the dark Jedi was very well done. Count yourself lucky that you can get girls into your movies! The intro in the theater is also well done, with the red lights in the background.

One of the problems I have is that the fights scenes are a bit too slow for Master Jedi's performing them. Another is that there are no facial expressions on the actors as they fight the last scene. What makes the Star Wars fights to good, is showing the faces as they fight, adding a human element to the story.

Nice job, I want to see another episode. Maybe Episode e?
Posted: Sat, 15th Mar 2003, 7:36pm

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LtMcMurphy, Thanks for all the comments! I was really worried about the whole getting busted for having sticks at school, ecpecially running around beating each other with them. We had administrators, cops, teachers and a bunch of other people see us and they would just laugh at us. It's good to be a senior and on the schools good side, you can get away with anything!
I also probably have just as many friends that are girls as guys, it is hard to get them to be on camera though.

-Fett

PS- Bandwidth problem is fixed now smile
Posted: Sat, 15th Mar 2003, 8:16pm

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Fett, some day you'll have to teach me how to get the girls in front of the camera. I can't count how many times I've wanted to have a FEMALE charcter, but have 0 who actually want to act! I have a few who do want to, but because we are all seniors and all, we always tons of stuff to do.

Once, for a short play we did for an acting class, a friend and I asked if we could bring in a cap gun as a prop. The teahcer approved, so we snuck it in through the back door in a duffel bag. The play turned out great, and we didn't get caught. It's great being a senior, yes.
Posted: Sat, 15th Mar 2003, 9:12pm

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I liked this one, good use of effects, sound is always a problem without the proper equipment.

good to see a school letting you film stuff like that smile did you let them watch it when it was finished ?

even tho the quality was good for divx, maybe some different style of camera angles, and as other ppl have said, a little bit more emotion in the characters you have created, and even tho yoda trained your ppl in the school, where was he to help fight the dark jedi guy, they all died cept one of them,he could of come in a saved em, a waste of jedi smile

overall a good performance - keep it up smile


Timescape
Posted: Sat, 15th Mar 2003, 11:33pm

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Actually it was shown over my school's live news program smile My TV teacher liked enough that it was actually the only thing during the 8 minute time frame for the news.
Everyone at the school loved it, I have a list of like 40 students and teachers who want a copy.
I agree with all your guy's comments, our actors could definalty use some more emotion...the problem mainly being that we can't act! None of us have ever taken a drama class or anything smile
Camera angles definatly could use a little work, and I probably do disolve to much between shots, I dunno I guess just plain cuts bug me in some spots.

-Fett
Posted: Mon, 17th Mar 2003, 12:01am

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I have to disagree with Timescape on the sound issue thing. It's never a problem unless you let it be a problem. The little film I did, Corrupt Data, has a couple of off bits, but because I worked on it a lot (onboard camera sound only), I was able to get something really passable.

Here's an excellent and easy way of doing clever overdubs...
Play your edited film on the computer and film your actor with the camera sound output direct into the soundcard input. Then overdubbing what they see on your computer is easy, cheap and cheerful, cause the sound matches nicely. Just remember to find either a nice dry sounding place or perhaps the original place your filmed in? Up to you.

So, it's just a case of knowing where to cut things, how to cut them and then how to balance them. Anyone with basic camera sound can make things sound half decent. It's just a case of clever editing in your software, e.g. fades, recording misc. quiet passages in the place you're filming. That way, you can cut between shots and have that passage "cross-waved(?)" with the scene's sound. Then it's not like a clear cut, it's more smooth and unnoticeable. It's kinda hard to explain that bit. confused

So, you get the idea. Always push your technology to the limit and you'll be surprised. Recently, I thought my SonyHi8 wasn't going to be good enough to work with a theatre group for our film. Thankfully, after some good tips here (alam users!), I discovered the inner functions like; flash effect ;exposure settings ;etc.

I don't know if it'll absolutely get used for our big film, but it will allow me to further the use of that old camera and use it to the fullest effect.

Man, I can babble! Later smile

Adam.
Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2003, 11:16pm

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Hi! I've been doing DV movies for a while now, and I've been using a Sony TRV-18 (I was limited on money at the time) that I bought a while ago. The Mic on that camera, all things considered, is pretty good. I did a side-by-side shoot with a friend of mine, who was using a Cannon, and mine was so much better quality. I dunno, maybe the Sony Mic's just work a little better. That said, I wish I had some noise-cancelling wireless lav's for everyone, lol..

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