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Time Travel!!!

Posted: Tue, 18th Mar 2003, 5:08am

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Which is the better time travel movie, Back to the Future, or Bill and Ted's
Exellent Adventure? rolleyes
Posted: Tue, 18th Mar 2003, 5:20am

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Hmmmm, I'm going to go with the under-dog here: Back To The Future. Best be representin'
Posted: Tue, 18th Mar 2003, 7:38am

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BTTF

just remember back to the first time you watched it. i bet like many of us you watched it again and again

Bill and teds didn't do that for me.
Posted: Tue, 18th Mar 2003, 7:47am

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BTTF cool 'nuff said
Posted: Tue, 18th Mar 2003, 11:53am

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Yes, no doubt about it! BTTF all the way !
Posted: Tue, 18th Mar 2003, 8:08pm

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Anyone who says bill and ted needs to be shot. For obvious reasons.
Posted: Tue, 18th Mar 2003, 9:24pm

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B&T's!
Posted: Tue, 18th Mar 2003, 11:40pm

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Anyone get the 3-disc set recently? I did, check out the anecdote feature, its really great, worth the purchase easily.
Posted: Tue, 18th Mar 2003, 11:56pm

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Dude, BTTF....duh.
Posted: Wed, 19th Mar 2003, 1:28am

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Terminator 2!

I think the real question is:

Who would win in a fight?
A) 5 Ninjas
B) 5 Pirates

Really makes you think, doesn't it?
Posted: Wed, 19th Mar 2003, 2:19am

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Oh man! That does make me think. Lets break it down...

Pirates! A dastardly groups of swashbucklers that do anything for the extra buck, even if it means setting their hair on fire.

Pros: Mean! Nasty! Smelly! Have ships. Have cannons. Have beards. Have scurvy.

Cons: Have cabin feaver. Have pegs legs. Have eye patches. Have homosexual tendencies. Have bad movies based off them.

Ninjas! A sleek, old group of noblemen who cut and slash through any fow, no matter who it be.

Pros: Wear black. Have swords. Have general scary demeanor. Have Green Destiny. Have bad temper.

Cons: Short. Have David Carradine in group. Have "honor" or whatever. Have bad movies based off them.


Ohhhhhh, tough! But I have found the winner, it is--

This Message has been blocked by the Pirate and Ninja Lovers Association (PANLA). PANLA believes it would be a tie.
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 1:20am

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ninjas do not fight for honor, you're confusing them with samauri

samauri were the honor-bound pigheads who fought in feudal japan

the ninja care not for honor, and would stab you in the back if it helped further their agenda.


and for the record, ninjas would win, hands down
the pirates wouldn't know what hit them
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 3:01am

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Um, Iceman, I don't think you put into play that the pirates are scary, and smelly, and maybe the ninjas, no matter how deceitful they are, would not want to come near them. They also sing songs! Ninjas hate songs, so I've heard!

You gotta think of these things man, don't just go blowing your top and saying the first thing that comes out of your mouth! Thats what the ninjas do! Do not underetimate pirates, they can fight well if they see anything shiny, and the ninjas would probably have shiny swords. Just another thing for you to think about.
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 3:49am

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more things for you to think about are that pirates are dumb, while ninjas are inherently genius

personally, I've always found pirates to be goofy, not scary in the least. you find pirates scary? sissy

http://www.realultimatepower.net/
a little web page for your perusal that clearly denotes that ninjas are not, in fact, afraid of music.

speaking of shooting one's mouth off before thinking. . . "pot, this is kettle; you're black" (kudos to anyone who got that smile )

a proper ninja sword is not shiny, by the way. a proper ninja sword has a black finish on the blade. I guess I can't fault you for not knowing this, as you also probably thought a ninja sword was called a 'katana'.


I will grant you one thing. . . ninjas wouldn't go near smelly pirates, they'd kill them from a distance with poisoned blow darts and rusty shurikens (most of you probably didn't know that, shurikens weren't deadly 'cause they were sharp, they were deadly because they were rusted, and/or poisoned, and modern medicine at the time had no cure for tetinus back then)
hold on, hold on! let me predict your next bonehead statement : "pirates would shoot them with cannons and guns!"
you can't hit what you can't see, and ninjas are the epitome of stealthiness. pirates, being the loud, obnoxious smelly creatures that they are, become nothing other than target practice to the all-powerful ninjas
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 5:54am

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Aw, but you forget one thing, Pirates set themselves on fire! Yes, its true. Orangebeard, or whatever his name is, put stuff in his hat and clothes, then set that stuff on fire! Thus creating an effective cloud cover. Now, if I'm not mistaken, the ninjas do not employ night vsion nor any other vision enhancement devices. Let me turn your words around: "you can't hit what you can't see." Thats exact words from your text message!! I believe this site will shed light on the subject. And since when are ninjas silent? Do they not make those cool sounds like Whoooooo and Keieeeeee!!! when fighting? Last time I fouhgt a ninja, he did.

Also, a pirate is seldome seen off one his/hers ship, therefore, for the fight to take place, the ninjas whould have to board the pirate ship. Ninjas, according to the site stated above, have terrible sickness (sources sited:page 56, written by Sum Yung Guey) when it comes to the sea. How can a ninja use a "blow dart" as you call them, when the ninja is busy upchucking?? A ninja does NOT have two mouths, sir Ice_man.

Oh and by the way, the handles are shiny, my friend, the handles are shiny...
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 5:59am

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I have something to say. Iceman is going to say that the ninjas could shoot blow darts at the pirates from the shore while the boat is docked, but then they would be simply attacking the pirates for fun. Not like ninjas at all. That's just plain evil. The pirates didn't do anything to the ninjas, but they decided to attack anyway.
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:03am

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Erm, no. You see, the pirates ships COULD be out to sea, thus defeating that arguement. Also, it is an established fight, the ninjas have a right to attack the pirates, and vice vera.

By the way, I'm not saying the Pirates would win, I'm just giving FACTUAL proof that pirates have just a much ability as the ninjas have. If I were to say who would win in my opinion, the PANLA would shut me down...
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:07am

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My previous statement is saying that out of the blackness of their hearts, the ninjas would be waiting for the pirates at the dock. And I don't remember anyone saying that this was an established fight. I mean, wars between pirates and ninjas have been going on for THOUSANDS of years, but this is a single fight. Just needed some clarification. And also, If the ninjas attempted to sneak onto the pirate ship at ANY time, there would be a several men on deck on watch. The ninjas would not stand a chance.
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:13am

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Ah, good point, pirates do have to eat. So do ninjas. But you forget that ninjas can swim, even with all that black-cloak stuff and all that. They could dive off the dock, say 5 miles down, and wim, then use their ninja stars to climb aboard the ship.
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:14am

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LtMcMurphy here obviuosly has no practical knowledge of anything ninja related.
ninja sword handles are wound with cloth, what are you going to tell me next, 'it was shiny cloth'?

ah yes, the excellent defense of SETTING YOURSELF ON FIRE. 'cause nothing hides you like a big cloud of smoke around yourself. a ninja would simply fire a poisoned dart into the cloud of smoke, thus defeating your feeble attempt at lunacy

again, you confuse ninjas for other asian members. this time, you confuse ninjas with bad kung fu actors. they scream in high pitched voices while fighting, ninjas do not. simple as that. it was obviously a bad kung fu actor impersonating a ninja that you fought, thus explaining your survival of the encounter. had it been a real ninja, you'd be dead.

ninjas are excellent swimmers, adept at traversing through all manner of terrain, including water. they are not, in fact inherently sea-sick. let's go along with your hokey theory for a moment, and assume that a ninja did get sea-sick (however extremely unlikely that may be) while hurling, he would throw a shuriken, not use his blowgun, that's just common sense.


FACTUAL proof that pirates could defend themselves, huh? they couldn't defend themselves from anything. look at 'em! all nasty with their scurvy-rotten teeth (and don't even TRY and tell me you don't know what scurvy is!)



and you spelled some dumb guy wrong, it's 'Sum Dom Goy' as told by Barry Gordon's The Last Dragon
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:26am

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aculag, even if there were lookouts on the deck, they'd not only wouldn't see the ninjas boarding their vessel, they'd die before they could send out a cry of "Arrr, matey! We be gittin' an intruder! Arrr!"

LtMcMurphy, ninjas don't use their 'ninja stars' to climb with, they use Nekode, which are specially designed 'hand claws' that can dig into the wood, thus allowing them to climb
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:27am

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Put five pirates together, have them set on fire, and you'll see how big the cloud of smoke will be. The ninjas, stupid as they are, will fire into the middle of the cloud, WHERE NO PIRATE ARE STANDING. The reason being is that the pirates space themselves at equal distance, in order for the cloud to be at its largest. The middle of the cloud will be in between 2 pirates.

Try this, stick a finger down your throat, and as your leaning over the toilet, coughing up last night's Ramen snack, grab a hunk of rusty metal and chuck it at a target thats covered in dense smoke, 50 feet away. No sensai can teach that, not even the one from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.

And yes I do know about ninjas. I used osmosis to absorb every bit of information on that fancy-dancy website of yours. You know, the one with all those hokey pictures of boys with Goth's bedsheets on.

One more fact, many people are sea-sick, and ninjas are people too, contrary to popular belief, so whats to hold the ninja back from being sea-sick? Let me remind you that in the time of ninjas, Genetic engineering was not invented yet.
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:33am

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put 5 pirates together, set them on fire, and you'll have a nasty pirate barbecue.

that cloud works both ways, the ninjas may not be able to see in, but the pirates can't see out, either.

try this : study martial arts for 25 years, and then come back to me and tell me what 'sensais' do or don't teach. (by the way, it's spelled 'Sensei')

ninjas didn't need genetic engineering to overcome seasickness, they had the power of asian herbal medicine. (and ninjas aren't many people, they are a select few, the best of the best, and they don't get seasick)
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:40am

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another thing to think about is that ninjas had guns and explosives to work with, just like the pirates

remember, the chinese invented gunpowder, and the ninja's origins are chinese
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:44am

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I hope that first sentense was a joke, because OBVIOUSLY they wouldn't set themelves on fire COMPLETELY. Thats for the monks to do.

"The purpose of the ninja is to flip out and kill people." That doesn't sound like something an "all-powerful god" would do. An "all-powerful god" would try and stop the fight, because killing is wrong.

And if by "asian herbal medicine" you mean Mary-Jane, all I can say is that it only makes you sick, not the opposite! Research is half of doing something else, remember.

Seneis (correct spelling, son) teach you how to take rocks from other people's hands real fast, then they get stabbed by spears. Never once have I seen one teach how to do such a feat mentioned before. Show me a picture of such feat being performed (not one doctored by Photoshop, mind you silly) and I will stab myself that very instant.
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:53am

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hey, you were the one saying pirates lit themselves up to hide, not me
it's buddhist monks who did that as a protest to the Vietnam war. that was not a cool thing to say unsure

who said anything about all-powerful gods?

the realultimatepower website is not giving you all the facts. perhaps a few clans of ninjas feel the need to flip out and kick your mom in the face, but they are few and far between.
you still obviously know nothing of anything ninja related, so like you said, go do some research, genius

marijuana's origins aren't asian in nature, bonehead.
if you'd done YOUR research, you'd know that marijuana originated in Amsterdam, Holland
you're thinking of opium, which isn't considered an herb.

you still spelled 'Sensei' wrong, and you still have no idea about anything pertaining to the martial arts world.

you kept saying feats mentioned before, but you never mentioned any feats before.
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:56am

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When i read the post I nearly shat myself based on the sole fact that ninjas were invlvoed. I almost posted to direct everyone to www.realultimatepower.net , but Iceman already took care of it. For the record, Back to the Future would dominate, as would the ninjas, which brings up the question, who would come away with the W in a tag team match between Back to the Future and Pirates vs. Bill and Ted and Ninjas, that, my friends, will make you think.
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:57am

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Ok, I'm ending this discussion now. I'm coming out.

I AM A PIRATE!!!

I have killed 13 skilled ninjas by a certain mean: Sweet and Sour Pork. They can't resist it, no one can. NOT EVEN ALL POWERFUL NINJAS.

I think thats pretty much sums up everything...
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:58am

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ooh, that's a toughy
back to the future would dominate bill and ted
but the ninjas would totally own the pirates
back to the future would tie with the ninjas
and bill and ted would befriend the pirates ('cause they're everyone's friend) which would result in a tie

so a tie match overall
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:59am

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I am a ninja. I have been a ninja for a long time
I've killed too many pirates to count. their weakness : they're pirates. 'nuff said.

stick that in your pipe and smoke it, matey

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Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 7:00am

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I bet PANLA made you say that...
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if any of you have been paying attention... I am SATAN. I have killed so many ninjas and pirates combined, you could fill the oceans with them. but instead, the pirates get sent to heaven and i get all those pesky annoying ninjas down here in hell. Why? because pirates don't live by modern conventions. They don't kill people out of the blackness of their hearts, they hunt for their food, they live off the land and the sea, and they know how to treat a woman. NINJAS on the other hand, kill for fun! they use modern stealth technology invented by hoodoo wizards to hide from their innocent victims until the time comes to kill senselessly. Plus, they are known for violently raping 15 or more women and children at a time. So as you can see, though they may seem vile, pirates are actually better in the long run.
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phh
If you were really satan, you would have better spelling
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 8:24am

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A) I didn't spell anything wrong in that paragraph.

B) If I did... I wasn't school properly... I kinda flunked out.. I'm a loser.
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 4:52pm

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you spelled 'voodoo' with an 'h'

and the correct wording of your second statement should be :
"If I did. . . I wasn't schooled properly". . .
I somehow expected more from the prince of darkness
you know what I think, I think you're a loser imposter
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:04pm

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Pirates would win because theres a whole shipload of em and there are only 1 or 2 highly skilled ninjas in the world.

Also ninjas of today are nowhere near as good as ninjas of the past because as everyone knows a master teaches his student everything but his one best move. And so each generation they have one less move to use.

Also by the time the ninjas get on the ship they will be so weighed down by the water and all their equipment that the pirates will just by able to grab em. "arrrr, bundle!!!"
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:08pm

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We're talking about 5 ninja vs. 5 pirates. It wouldn't be fair for a whole ship of pirates vs say one or two ninjas.

I also think we are talking about 5 ninjas IN THEIR PRIME, same with pirates.

The last comment, I leave to Ice_Man.
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:14pm

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thank you, Lt

why do people always seem to confuse ninjas with other stereotyped martial arts figures? ninjas always teach their last move. kung fu masters do not. they save their last move to use on the off chance that their disciple will try to overthrow them. ninja masters fear no such upheaval.

as for the water weight, it won't matter, becuase the pirates are ON FIRE! remember pirates use wooden ships, and wood burns. they set themselves on fire, they set their boat on fire, and the ninjas watch them go down in flames while they tread water a safe distance away
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:19pm

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I don't think I clarified the whole setting-themselves-on-fire thing. If you look at my previous messages, they state that they stuck stuff in their clothes and hats, then set that stuff on fire. It burned just hot enough to cause smoke. And since the specific heat of the "stuff" is lower than the wood, the wood would not catch flames if that "stuff" were to fall from his hat.

The pirate ship would not burn.
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:22pm

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just hot enough to to smoke, huh?
but it wasn't hot enough to burn their hair, or skin, or clothes off.

sounds like some magical fire to me
Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2003, 6:59pm

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No sir! This material burns at a low temperature. Even if it did singe their clothes, the pirates wouldn't care. They got 2 or 3 sets back in the back they could use.
Posted: Sat, 22nd Mar 2003, 3:54pm

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This "Time Travel" thread has quickly turned into an Ninja VS Pirate thread. Therefore, I suggest for those who feel strongly enough, to make a film as to showing why their side should win. Whoever has the coolest movie wins.

P.S. how about throwing in some time travel action to keep the movie somehow liked to the thread?
Posted: Sat, 22nd Mar 2003, 4:32pm

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*runs outside and starts filming*
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can i have shaolin monks on my side?