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Selling my copy of AlamDV 2

Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2003, 4:26pm

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rmendoza

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Would I be allowed to sell my copy of AlamDV 2
and transfer the ownership to someone else?

If so, could that person then be the registered
owner that would be able to download the plugins
and gain all the other Gold Member benefits?

I plan to buy AlamDV 3 and all the other new
software packages when they are available.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2003, 4:47pm

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rmw

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I dont know if you can do that.

But why dont you just upgrade from AlamDV2 to AlamDV3 and you wont have to sell it.

Thats what I would do (If what you ment was you are going to sell alamdv2 and then buy alamdv 3 for its whole price again not just upgrade)

I hope that helps wink
Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2003, 4:52pm

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Simon K Jones

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I quote from the licence agreement:

3.1 You may not copy (other than once for back-up purposes), transfer, rent, distribute, lease or sub-licence all or any portion of the Software.


So, sorry, you can't sell the software on. If you're planning on getting AlamDV3, it wouldn't make much sense anyway, as people who have AlamDV2 will get a discount on the upgrade.

Sorry 'bout that.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2003, 5:28pm

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rmendoza

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What I'm getting at is this;

I want to give, maybe sell, my copy of AlamDV 2
to my friend. I would then purchase AlamDV 3
at full price.

It seems that if I just uprgade then I have a copy of
AlamDV 2 which will no longer be used.
To me that's kind of a waste of a good program.

I'd rather have my new copy of AlamDV 3 and
have someone else use AlamDV 2.

Regardless, I do not intend to break the rules which
is the reason I am just asking at this point.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2003, 5:31pm

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MechaForce

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Why dont you upgrade and have your friend buy the full version? You'd both end up spending the SAME amount of total money doing that as you would selling it and whatever.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2003, 6:09pm

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Kid

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If you upgraded to V3 you wouldn't have a spare V2 going to waste cos you would have used it to upgrade to V3.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2003, 6:34pm

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callumslade

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I can see what your trying to do....... your friend cant pay the £50 for alam dv so your trying to find a cheaper option for him...... sadly this won't work tell your poor friend to save up his pennies....
Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 12:37am

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rmendoza

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Ok, let me try it this way.

I buy a full version of After Effects 5.5 but
I still have a full version of AE 4.0.
I can keep AE 5.5 but give my AE 4.0 to someone else, right?
What sense would it be for me to keep both if I will obviously
be using AE 5.5.

Now, I buy the full version of AlamDV 3.0 (not using my upgrade,
discontinued price.) I still have a copy of AlamDV 2.
What sense would it be for me to have both? I will obviously
use V3.

Now, I give my copy of AlamDV 2 to someone. That someone
uses it, likes it, probably will eventually upgrade.
What wrong with this logic?

"3.1 You may not copy (other than once for back-up purposes), transfer, rent, distribute, lease or sub-licence all or any portion of the Software."

Yes I have read 3.1, however, I believe the meaning of that context
is meant to prohibit software piracy.
In my case, there is no software piracy.

Again, just asking. If anything, maybe this will cause CSB to review
their license agreement.
Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 12:46am

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Joshua Davies

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Buying AlamDV2 (like any other program) doesn't mean you own the actual software. What you are buying is a licence to use that software. On upgrading you will be upgrading your licence so it is legal for you to use AlamDV3 as well. The licence is the same as your AlamDV2 licence - just upgraded so you can use the new software - so therefore you can not pass the software on to another person.

The licence you purchased to use AlamDV2 was for you, and therefore can not be transfered to another people as stated in the Licence Agreement. If your friend wants to use AlamDV2 then they will require their own licence, and if they are not sure they'll like it then why don't they try the AlamDV2 demo, or better still the AlamDV3 demo when it is released.
Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 1:01am

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rmendoza

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Ok. I still feel my point is being missed.

But, it's really not a big deal to me.
I can just as easily buy two copies of V3.
One for me and one for my friend.

Anyways, feel free to lock the thread or delete
if you like.

I have a strong appreciation for CSB Digital
and will continue to support the license agreement. smile
Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 1:09am

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Simon K Jones

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Thanks for the thoughtfulnes you're showing in this discussion, rmendoza. When we're snowed under with work like we are at the moment, it's the kind support of users such as yourself that keeps us going.

Regarding your previous points - another problem (other than those raised by schwar) is that, if you buy/upgrade AlamDV3 and give/sell AlamDV2 to your friend, it means we lose out on a sale of AlamDV2/3 to your friend.

Unfortunately we sometimes have to put the business side of things first. smile
Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 2:18am

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sidewinder

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Unfortunately? pfft. It's not unfortunate for a business to want to make money. That's what they do.
Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 3:14pm

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Kid

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rmendoza wrote:

I buy a full version of After Effects 5.5 but
I still have a full version of AE 4.0.
I can keep AE 5.5 but give my AE 4.0 to someone else, right?
You can't do that either! razz

There is the other point of how much use Alam2 will be to your friend. We don't know how long Alam2 will be supported after Alam3 comes out. (I'm sure they will continue to support it for a reasonable while but any new plugins and things will most likely be designed for Alam3)