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What kind of camera you using?

Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 4:02pm

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Hi, slightly new to these boards, don't know if this has been asked.

What kind of camera is everyone using?
Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 4:07pm

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Yep, it's been asked before... I'm using an old Sony PC5E.
Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 4:08pm

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Hello, i use the Kodak Mc3 which triples up as a camera camcorder and mp3 all in one!
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Canon XL1s. It's oh so lovely....

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Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 5:22pm

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I use a Panasonic NV-DA 1
Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 5:28pm

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I'm using a Sony DCR-TRV 27. It works great and it has a good size screen. Its much cheaper now, than when I bought it!

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Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 6:15pm

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The Cannon XL1. And I agree with Aculag: Oh so lovely. Especially in Frame Mode.
Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 6:37pm

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Yes.... Frame Mode is a good thing. And it especially looks good if you've got proper lighting.
Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 6:57pm

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I use the Panasonic NVDX110, which also has Frame Mode...I agree, it's fabulous, when you know when to you use it. I don't know if the effect is better on the XL1.

You've got to pre-plan the scenes you want to be in Frame Mode though otherwise the footage will be useless (eg don't have important dialogue scenes shot in Frame Mode, cos in effect you're shooting in slow motion. Well, not exactly; you're shooting with double frames so it comes out as slow motion - it does on mine anyway).

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Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 7:22pm

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Roadkill Studio's have devised our own perfect video camera. I say perfect, but we still havent managed to make it brew coffee.

Mental note: Get Einstein in.

Back to the topic. We have created a pinhole camera, suitable for all weather conditions (Except rain, snow, sleet, extreme sun, and light wind). The ingenious part, is the capturing of the video. Instead of the usual 'Mini-DV' recording devices we have seen, we employ a 'Grab one end of the photographic tape and run accross the set with it whilst the shutter opens and closes' method, thus capturing thousands of frames rather effortlessly (Effortless unless doing the 'Tape pulling'). Of course, this is all just one massive joke, because I'm a rather sarcastic person, and really we use a JVC Mini-DV camera.
Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 7:45pm

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cannon ZR40
it's great and only about $540
Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 7:47pm

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Canon XL1s
Sony vx1000 (for sale)
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Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 8:47pm

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It's not slow motion on the XL1s. Just looks really damn good. Heh. However, if you plan to spend 14,000 bucks on transerring it (your movie) to 16 or 35mm film, don't use frame mode, because that's when it starts looking like crap.
Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2003, 10:32pm

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Right now a Canon Powershot A 40 for my Stop Motion videos. Im saving for a Panasonic PV-DV952 for about $1300. I will have it by the start of June for making full motion videos.
Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 7:53am

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i'm using a sony DCR-PC9E. it's a small but really great little camera, cost about 1000$ (when i boughnt it it costed about 1500$. I am intended to buy a Canon XL1S.
Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 10:30am

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Ahh i'v seen an Xl-1 Even used it but i cant afford it lol
the only thing bad about it is up dont have a lcd viewfinder screen sad

Ahh now i use some Sony DV cam, dont know the name though, never bothered with the mannual or box + i also use my old Hi-8 cam along with it all digitized with a DV300 for maximum quality
Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 6:23pm

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I use a Sony DCR-TRV330. I have a wide-angle lens and external mic on it also. The quality is not bad, but nowhere near that of like an xl-1s... unsure meh...I need $4000.
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 4:06pm

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I use a Sony Hi-8 TR930e camera.

Still good, but I'd love an XL1s or perhaps the XM-2, which I hear is slightly better than the XL1s.

Btw, does anyone know where to find a video demo of the Canon XL1s frame mode? I'd like to see what it's like. smile

Adam.
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 10:41pm

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Man I got a Canon ZR-40 which is good but not for any SFX. Just trying to key with that thing is an all day lighting nightmare and the keys don't even turn out that good. Just wait til I save up my $1000 I will have my 3CCD camera and I will master that Green bitch on my wall (green screen)....

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Posted: Tue, 8th Apr 2003, 12:19am

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Ive got a sony DCR-TRV140, its one of the cheaper dv cameras, but it's good enough for what use it for. Maybe someday i'll be able to buy a cannon xl1.... rolleyes
Posted: Wed, 9th Apr 2003, 4:02am

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i think you can find a video of frame mode at www.canondv.com click on the xl1 space, and there should be something there. was when i was looking at buying one. turned out to be a good choice too.
Posted: Wed, 9th Apr 2003, 5:54pm

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i have a hitachi dvd-cam dzmv200a with a wide angle lens
Posted: Thu, 10th Apr 2003, 12:16am

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Does anybody know anything about "grey market" versions of cameras?? My friend was telling me how some websites (ex. http://www.digitalliquidators.com) are selling cameras for extremely cheap prices because the sell a "grey market" version. Take for example the Canon XL-1s which is normally priced at around $4000 usd. The grey market versions sells for about 2500 usd. Why so cheap?? Well supposedly these cheaper cameras are made in places like Thailand as opposed to Japan. And are made from cheaper parts. My friend warned me not to get a grey market because it is an inferior camera, is not of the same quality and will most likely start to malfunction. So do any of you know about this so called "Grey Market" and if its fact or myth. If grey market versions do exist are they really inferior cameras??
Posted: Thu, 10th Apr 2003, 6:08pm

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Hi
I got to preview JVC's new HD consumer cam at NAB, has anyone seen any screenshots of frame samples anywhere on the net? Trying to get a sample frame to do some testing with. Thanks
codec3
Posted: Thu, 10th Apr 2003, 9:05pm

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I've heard of the Grey markek. I found this on a web page.

So-called "Grey Market" goods have been a significant part of the photo industry for years, since long before digicams came into existence. Simply put, a "grey market" product is one that's been imported through unofficial channels from the country where the manufacturer intended for it to be sold, to another country. (The U.S., in our case.) This often results in lower prices for the product when it's resold, since the foreign (usually Japanese) price doesn't include the costs of translation (manuals and menus may be in Japanese), U.S. technical support, maintenance of the U.S. repair facilities, etc. Depending on the product, buying grey market may or may not constitute a good deal for the consumer: Many companies refuse to perform warrantee service on grey market goods, so you need to be able to get the gadget back to its country of origin for service, or have some other alternative for service.

We've personally always been leery of grey market goods, at least when it comes to complex products like cameras. We confess that we have at least one grey market lens in our camera bag, which we bought from a reputable dealer who offered their own warranty service. We figured a lens would be unlikely to require service, and if it did, it's a fairly straightforward mechanical system that a large dealer's shop could reasonably be expected to handle on their own. Cameras are another matter though, particularly when you consider the possibility that repair will likely require access to electronic sub-assemblies that aren't commonly made available for sale by the manufacturers.

Still, a lot of people in this country have routinely bought grey market cameras and used them with good results. We think it ultimately harms the industry, since at least some of those people will be calling the US tech support lines, receiving help that they haven't "paid" for, since none of their purchase dollars went to supporting the U.S. organization. - But that's up to the individual purchaser, it isn't our position to moralize about how people should spend their money.

Hope it helps,

James
Posted: Fri, 11th Apr 2003, 12:01pm

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thanks James, I'd give you some points, but sadly I don't have too many lol !
Posted: Fri, 11th Apr 2003, 2:21pm

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thanks James, I'd give you some points, but sadly I don't have too many !
Well I've given him some for you! biggrin lol

A couple of things to add - in some places the law requires that digital cams only hav dv out, as if they had dv ins they would be classed as a video recorder & could be subject to more tax. So, grey imports can be useful in getting round some annoying & unjust laws. Watch out, though, that the cam you buy as a grey import can be used properly in your country, as the source country may have a different TV standard to your own (eg, don't buy a grey import from UK if you live in US, as UK has PAL TV standard & US has NTSC).

I myself think they're a good idea, reducing the price the consumer pays, & they are not going to be dodgy because they will be authentic products by reputable manufacturers. Yes, you will be taking money out of your own economy but there are some huge price differences with the same product in different countries, & arguably we should be charged the same price whatever country we live in.

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Posted: Fri, 11th Apr 2003, 3:49pm

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It's too bad they don't sell "bare bones'" electronics like cameras and such, as some computer stores sell hard drives without any cables or manuals. I'd buy a new digicam with out the manual, I'd just download from their site if I needed it.

Thanks Mellifluous for the bonus points,

James