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Firewire from the Soundblaster card

Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 9:25pm

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Anyone use the firewire on the Soundblaster Audigy to import video? Cause I just saw it has a firewire port, but I cannot make it to work confused No editing softwares detect it sad


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Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 9:28pm

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That's probably because it's an audio card. Is there anything in the documentation about being able to import video with it?
Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 10:08pm

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That's why I didn't check. But if you look on their website http://www.soundblaster.com/sb1394/

it's written : "connecting your PC to a host of digital equipment like digital camcorders, digital cameras, VCRs, audio players, external hard drives, exteranl CD-RW drives, and other high-speed devices including another PC with a Firewire connector on-board."

So anybody used it?
Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 10:23pm

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hmm.... Interesting.
Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 10:26pm

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Yep it works like any other firewire port. Mine works fine with Premiere and Edition, I haven't tried it with anything else.

In your device manager in windows you should have a category 'IEEE 1394 Bus Host Controllers' and under that an item 'OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller'. If its not there you can't have installed the drivers properly but as far as I am aware mine is using ones built into windows 2000.

There is also no problem with having another firewire card in the machine and using that instead or as well as the SB Audigy one.
Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 10:45pm

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Thanks Kid, I checked in the device manager and it's written that's the firewire is working correctly. But Premiere still say the DV device of my camcorder is Offline confused

Is there something I must do differently with firewire? to the cam or to my pc cause I never use this kind of port before. When I check with my "s-video input" everything is fine (except the image quality wink )

And I use windows XP
my camcorder : Sony TRV720 NTSC


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Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 10:48pm

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Have you got the cam in the port as you're trying to use it?
Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 10:52pm

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Yes the cam is plug and turn on and on the VTR mode. Must I do something else with the cam?
Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 10:58pm

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The cam needs to be on, plugged in and in the right mode when you go into the capture bit. Also in premiere you can choose what type of cam you have cos some of em talk slightly differently.
Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 10:59pm

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Don't think so...have you checked your settings in Premiere, eg Preferences, device control. Is it showing up in the device control tab?
Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 11:11pm

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I have talked to a pro guy who had the same camcorder and he answered me that I need to download the driver of the camcorder. I'm presently searching on the Sony.com site, but if someone find the link, post it here and I will give you force points!


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P.S Who said technology was easy unsure

EDIT : Is I.LINK the samething as firewire?
Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 11:28pm

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Yes ilink and firewire are both based on the IEEE 1394 standard. They both have extensions which are important for other devices but for our video purposes all 3 are interchangable descriptions.
Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 11:37pm

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what version of premiere are you running ? you will probably need 6.0 or later as it contains much better DV cam support
Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 11:39pm

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I am using Premiere 6.0
Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 11:41pm

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Have you done the little updates to 6.02 or whatever it is?
Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2003, 11:53pm

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The problem is not Premiere because it also doesn't work with Windows Movie Maker and Ulead Media Studio pro
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 2:44am

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I have the audigy and a Sony TRV740. I use Vegas, and I've also tested with Windows movie maker and firewire connect works fine. I'm using WinXP Pro.

I don't think you need any drivers from Sony outside of the ones that came with the Audigy. However, you do need to make sure you have all of the updated software and patches from Creative for your card. I've had my Audigy for almost a year, and if I recall there were a lot of issues with XP without the updated software. Firewire is plug and play so you don't need Sony drivers.

Just curious, are you using the firewire port on the front of the Audigy, or on the back of your PC (I'm assuming you have the internal Audigy)?
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 3:12am

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I only have it on the back of my pc. I reinstalled the newest drivers for the audigy and I downloaded every updates of Windows XP. And still no contact with my camcorder mad

I saw on many other forums that it's a problem of XP, and if I change to 98SE it may works eek
No way!


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Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 10:03am

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B4 you download any updates to Premiere you should look at what the updates actually do. The updates are to solve problems some users have so don't download them unless you're having the problems listed on the Adobe website, otherwise they could muck up your Premiere for you.

They're not your usual idea of an update, having any new features or anything...they're just patches. The only update worth getting is 6.5 cos that has totally new features.

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Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 1:58pm

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My Audigy card has a firewire port on both the back of the PC and on the front of the Audigy. On the front it is located on the right, next to the MIDI ports. I've never used the firewire ports on the back, just the front, so I don't know if that makes a difference.
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 3:43pm

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What is the firewire port connected to inside the machine? get the motherboard manual out and check to see. my firewire port is on the back of the machine and inside it is plugged in directly to a port on the motherboard - IEEE 1394 i think Kid said. you'd be best to check that its connected hardware-wise aswell as software-wise. oh and check the device manager to see if it sees firewire

hope this helps tard

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Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 4:49pm

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Well I suggest getting those updates, cos one of em fixes a lot of firewire issues. Mainly the one where it stutters on playback when you have a cam plugged in.

The firewire port is actually on the audigy card. It doesn't require any other connection to work. The one on the card inside is for connecting to an internal HD or a front panel port.
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 6:34pm

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ah ok Kid, i was going by my firewire card, which just plugs into the back, but not into any of the expansion slots. it then has a couple of plugs that plug into the motherboard. (it came with my dvd burner by the way)

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Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 10:16pm

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I bought a DV Firewire card today and a new wire. Conclusion : still no detection of my camcorder.

I try also with VideoWave to look if Premiere was the problem. And no, still no detection of my camcorder.

The problem : Windows XP crazy I guess I will have to buy windows 98SE crazy
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Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 10:41pm

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Windows SE? Man, that stinks. Can't you buy Windows 2000, wouldn't it work on that. W2K is the most stable system & I haven't had any problems in the 7 months I've had my present homebuilt system, & I've been using it a lot. W98SE is just crap. Will you install it on a different drive so you can choose what OS you can boot up on?

Bad luck...
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 11:08pm

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Mellifluous wrote:

Will you install it on a different drive so you can choose what OS you can boot up on?

Actually I have never had something else than XP (cause this is my first pc) so I have no idea on how to install both XP and 98SE.
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 11:14pm

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For starters, it's best to have 2 hard drives, if you install it over XP you might not be able to get XP back (if your PC is a factory one & you don't have an XP disk as opposed to a "Factory Reset" disk).

For installation, just shove the disk in when the PC's on, & follow the instuctions. It's pretty straightforward as it will detect your drivers & software, you just have to make sure you install it on eg. D drive instead of C drive.