Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 7:34pm
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|Pharmacide. Also known as the best gun fight ever 2.|
Synopsis: An American drug boss, Swanson Johnson, has been invading a Russian gang's territory, and Nicholas, the Russian gang's second in command, has to break the news to Swanson. After hearing the news, the stubborn Swanson returns to his crib in the rural areas, north of Minneapolis, and waits out the deadline. But little does he know he and his goonies' asses are about to be kicked through a 100th story window.
Disclaimer: We say a few bad words and fire over 2000 bullets in this movie, killing over 45 people (About 36 deaths / severe beatings are actually shown).
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Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 7:47pm
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Top 10 material if ever i saw it.
Great visual effects and camera work, nice to see so many different types of shots in one film. Also incorporating real effects (fake blood, smoke bombs) makes it all that bit better. Good work guys, hope to see more stuff like this
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 7:48pm
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Swanson Johnson, heh! cool name
I thought only about 4 people died cos you all played several different parts...I'm just being a smartass.
I liked it, but the handheld shots jarred, such as in the first scene when you pan from one character to a longshot of the other walking away. Was this style intentional?
Some of the photography was a great such as all the falling cardboard bits in slo-mo, & the shots of all the dirt-bikers coming over the hill in the distance.
Fight scenes were good too, & the bikers falling off was funny.
Definitely a high rating, but I have to think whether it deserves a 4 or a 5...
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 8:01pm
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Great work, dudes! Totally dig the pseudo-70s porn flick intro and the overall feel of the footage. Could be vastly improved in the audio department, however, first with the prudent use of a soundtrack during the gunfights and second, with enhanced (i.e. at least more audible)dialogue audio
Still, a magnificent effort that deserves no less than 5
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 8:14pm
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I agree with Moebius. Very nice work. Perhaps was a little too bright or too dark at some points, but hey, can't complain. It was good.
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 8:29pm
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I see you got yourself some fancy imagefilters...
The action was cool, as well as the props. Quite an arsenal you have there...
The camera was sometimes very good and cool, and sometimes rather shakey.
The editing was on a high level is usual.
All in all 5 stars from me...
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 9:19pm
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The handheld stuff was more intentional, in order to give it more of a live feel.
We used Magic Bullet, which is a very nice color corrector. Don't you think?
Anyways, the comments are appreciated.
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 9:43pm
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Lacks in lighting at the beggining, ppl kind of dark and hard to hear.
Great fun fights, liked the guns
Have you tried jumping into the boxes like a belly flop to start but land on your back. Kind of like a half flip? I think thats how most ppl land them. Less chance of wrecking your wrists i guess? + It looks cool when the guys going straight down head firstm (Just make sure you get around to ur back b4 landing lol)
Liked the titles and the colouring etc etc
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 10:34pm
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That was a really good movie, and like Moebius said the 70s porn intro rocked. The only thing I could see wrong with the brightness. Other than that I it was really cool. Was the audio better in the non-compressed version?
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 10:54pm
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Um, I was lost. I don't get it. The boat left and I wasn't on the boat.
The squibs were cool
Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2003, 11:18pm
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Everything was better in the non-compressed version, as usual.
You don't get it? Read the description. :p
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 12:07am
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Were all of those guns yalls or some borrowed and some owned?
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 1:11am
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They're all ours.
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 1:12am
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That's a lot of guns, eh?
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 1:22am
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Yes, it is.
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 4:27am
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Hey boys, good job. Very entertaining. Nice effects, and good job with the fighting.
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 5:03am
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Are all of those guns from the Grant money??
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 7:27am
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Acting seemed a bit too cheesy,
you need an external mic.
bit too dark at start,
it had some good bits in mostly the fight scene.
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 3:09pm
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5 stars from me!!!
Didn't belive that 10 mins could go so fast
I enjoyed everything exept for the biginning, it was a bit hard to hear but well acted. Very nice gun battle! VERY nice!
I need to make something similar... You're 16 years old right?
You can drive a car and I don't
There's a law here in Sweden, must be 18.
I'm not realy a fan of compressing movies that low, ruins some parts of the movie, ruins many parts i've notice in my own films.
I would be happy if you could upload that to my FTP in DVD or SVCD format as said in a PM i sent you. I wanted MGR you remember?I'll PM the FTP info...
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 3:26pm
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A nice little movie there, u grown since the first best gun fight ever, so has your talent. but i thought you could do better..
First of all, the ligth was really wierd at some parts, the bright was to bright and the dark was to grey:ish..
But nice work overall, loads of guns, /me like that.
hey, what did u use for the squibs ?
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 3:28pm
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Cypher wrote:Um, I was lost. I don't get it. The boat left and I wasn't on the boat.
I think I was left on the dock with Cypher
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 3:29pm
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b4uask30male wrote:Acting seemed a bit too cheesy,
you need an external mic.
bit too dark at start,
it had some good bits in mostly the fight scene.
B4u pretty much sums up my review
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 3:44pm
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Not on the boat? What do you not really understand? A drug lord is ordered to shut down his business by the mafia. He doesn't, so they take him down.
We used firecrackers for the squibs. We strapped a magazine to ourselves, taped the firecracker on top, and then lit the fuse.
Is the light the main issue? The city stuff showed up rather fine on the computer we did the editing on, even in the compressed version. I do agree that a few scenes were a little bright...
Other than the light, and a few quiet parts in the city, is there anything else that really stood out?
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 4:24pm
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I know the 3 was abit harsh....(I quess I rate you guys on a differant scale then say, the newbs)
I undersood the plot fine (I read the description)
It was the light. it made it REALLY hard to see what was going on during he fight scene.
I thought that the intro with all the city lights and the guy walking/driving was top noch pro quality stuff other then the fact that you need an external mic
. (forgive all the spelling bloopers)
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 4:39pm
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can u still buy firework over there? its illegal here!
the sound and the light is the bad things, the rest is the good things
Hey, i was really suprised that this one came before DXM, still under work ??
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 5:14pm
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Yeah, we just did this in 2 weeks as a side project. DXM is still being worked on.
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 5:20pm
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lookimg forword to it. when is it due?
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 6:16pm
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no, it's DXM.
I can't give you a date...
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 6:47pm
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. This is the sweetest movie in the alamdv cinema. Lots of action, great sound, camera angles, and decent acting. Plus hair wigs. Bloody 5.
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 8:59pm
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Evil Russians is classic!
And why do you always need to understand? Action is action dammit!
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 9:02pm
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DXM better be supercalifragilisticexpalidoucious.
I am seriously looking forward to it.
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 9:17pm
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I think V6proz put it best...
Evil Russians is classic!
And why do you always need to understand? Action is action dammit!
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 10:34pm
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I watched the flick before the thread. I wondered if I would be the only one to notice the opening was like late 70's early 80's porn. Overall it was pretty damned good. I really dig the live FX you used. Tis fun to play with fireworks
How did you convince the Cable access channel to fund that flick? It is great that they did but I figured somebody would review the application and then would say some crap like, " We do not condone violence of anytype" and not give you the money
I liked it alot. Can't wait for DxM
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 10:54pm
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They technically can't give out money based on it's content - because then they'd be discriminating. Which means we can do anything we want once it's in our hands.
Actually, we could probably straight up LIE and just do whatever we want - as long as we give them a finished video.
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 11:07pm
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Ok so heres where im confused. Why did crawling space get more 5's then pharmacide? I mean no offense to er-no but i thought pharmacide's action was 10x better and it had more style.
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 11:16pm
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Well I don't care about DXM all I want to see is DMX
Posted: Mon, 7th Apr 2003, 11:53pm
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Im looking at this film, and Im thinking! (at the same time, I would have you believe!). Do you know what I'm thinking? Each and every day, I pray that you dont, so with any luck, me typing out just what it is wont be in vein / you dont know my every thought!*
Moving on! The sound in the peice braught to my attention certain qualities I wasn't expecting from a film of such high taste. Let us begin with the reference to an injection, obviously braught about by the name of the film: Pharmacy. (sp?) When the music kicked in, I have to say I was gasping, was he about to give him a lead injection, or a (Not ** gay!) Beef injection! I suppose we will never know. Maybe this is the cliff hanger reffered to by 'the 3 year man'. The second aspect that both catches and clings to the eye of the beholder is (not the beauty, as some might assume) in fact, the diverse ethnic background the author has drawn on, as evident in such scenes as 'Goodnight Mister Sarcophagus' and 'Andriel on the roof again'. Japan may have infiltrated our heats, but our homes? Surely a line should be drawn before such font-fiasco's are repeated?
Now, I may not be one to talk, nor speak, nor uprise, or even bat an eye, but who is to say whether or not the introductory sequence is too long? If I where to meet God, this would probably be the question I put forward to him in fact, just to be clear. I guess until such a boon is granted me, (perhaps for performing some such act as 'finally feeding the raccoon?') I will rest in my grave non the wiser. In the meantime, we shall have to take 'yes' as an answer, since its probably a whole lot closer to the truth than 'no'.
In your thesis on "Crawling space - the evil within?" I notice you make reference to the number of 5-star ratings. Could this in fact be to the cunning (at some points CONNIVING!) use of camera angles, fast clean editing and while the cut of my jib seems tailored in a 'ruthless' fashion, lets buy the farm, go the whole hog, push the boat out and stick all our collective necks out and say perhaps even the intro was too long?
To conclude: If you want to succede in life, learn two lessons. The first, is that the film comes before your names, not the other way around I should assume (or other 'wayS' if more than one path be found I guess?)
The second, When naming a film Pharmacide, never neglect the power of including a single track by the 'Pharcyde', off record, lets reccomend the record, 'Drop'. In my unnaproachable opinion, this would have been the yeast to your dough. Without it, we are left with a slender but unnappetising pitta. In Combination however, a full farmhouse loaf would have been both mine and yours for the wrapping in clingfilm and saving for the wintertime.
(* = if you do, dont tell the postman of my plans, or all will be lost for sure.)
(** - especially)
Posted: Tue, 8th Apr 2003, 1:47am
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I agree - yeast WAS needed - but that doesn't mean there was a complete absence of it.
I don't get the rest of the metaphors.
Posted: Tue, 8th Apr 2003, 4:37am
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Great Film, I enjoyed it alot. First off, i wanted to know how the people getting hit by bullets was done? Squibs or paintballs or who knows what? Second, I couldnt help to notice that the trench coat guys busted out with some gun kata. Was that inspired by Equilibrium?
Thanks for ur answers (whenever they come), and great job with the flick.
Posted: Tue, 8th Apr 2003, 3:21pm
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NOTHING was inspired by equilibirum - nothing we do will ever be either.
In fact, we haven't even seen the movie!
Yes they were squibs -
Posted: Wed, 9th Apr 2003, 6:38am
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wow nice work in the over all...a couple minor probs.but nothing everyone else didn't cover.
Posted: Thu, 10th Apr 2003, 7:09am
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How comes it, that after I downloaded this. When I play it , it counts down as if playing however there is no audio and visual. Did anyone else have this problem and does anyone know what to do to resolve it?
'cos I need to see it. It sounds bbbbaaaaaaadddddddddd!!! (bad=good for all you old timers out there.
Posted: Thu, 10th Apr 2003, 12:41pm
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Posted: Thu, 10th Apr 2003, 2:51pm
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Posted: Sat, 12th Apr 2003, 5:46pm
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Did I read right that firecrackers were used for squibs? If so, cool. I'm always on the look-out for something easy, but safe.
If firecrackers were not the case, can you give me a breakdown on how you obtained them and set them up? Would be nice to see some Behind-The-Scenes footage of that, too!
Posted: Sat, 12th Apr 2003, 6:08pm
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actually, go to www.pharmacide.tk
to see the behind-the-scenes movie.
Yes, we did in fact use firecrackers-taped to a magazine that we hadinside our shirts. We held the magazine up with a belt wrapped around the magazine and our torso.
Posted: Sat, 12th Apr 2003, 6:52pm
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What kind of precautions need to be taken if you try this?
I'm going to the site to watch that behind the scenes, right now!
Posted: Sat, 12th Apr 2003, 7:02pm
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Loved the BTS video.
JUMP! Heh heh.
Posted: Sat, 12th Apr 2003, 7:35pm
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Precautions...Hm...wear ear plugs...and don't hold the firecracker in your hand. Also, make sure the firecracker is securely taped on the magazine. Wearing another shirt underneath the first quards against sparks form the fuse. if it doesn't show, don't tuck that inner shirt in so if the firecracker falls off the magazine, it doesn't fall down your pants.
Posted: Sat, 12th Apr 2003, 8:39pm
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I finally got to watch this the other day, and I thought it was good.
The conversation at the beginning wasn't very good as the shots didn't interact and were commonly out of frame and the audio kept changing. I like the shots of the city though in the titles though.
The action in it was excellent, very gun heavy, quite intense however I felt there wasn't enough angles and the part when Nicholas threw a stuntman into some boxes shouldn't have been in slomo as it wasn't impressive enough to warrant slow motion, being as he went only a couple of inches above the ground.
Overall I thought it was way better than average, some good stunts, others not so good. Good special effects. The plot, acting and writing weren't exactly a great part of it, which is good as they weren't really very good. The action was well done though like I said some more angles would be useful.
Could be better but could be alot worse. 5 stars.
Posted: Sun, 13th Apr 2003, 3:29pm
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Home movie colours......no moving cam shots....no violence...no guns.....no real flames and explosions...no dead bodies....lots of hugs and kisses....fun for the kids.....no smoking....well DON'T watch this movie.
This is EXCELLENT....the beginning is very "artistic" a touch of "Taxi Driver"....beautiful.... filtered shots...a joy to watch.
Action scenes professionally handled,as is the whole movie,a great advert for the non-smoking lobby....hehe.
Your love for filmaking shows through and the determination to "get it right" also manifests itself.
A "cult"type movie has been made here.....so well done lads.....I put this in the same stable as "Rose" (Sollthar).
I'm very impressed......you take your work very seriously and it shows.
Posted: Tue, 6th May 2003, 10:51pm
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Posted: Fri, 27th Jun 2003, 3:59am
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In the words of SFBmovieszzzz, *bump*
PS: GO TO PHARMACIDE.TK BECAUSE I CAN'T CHANGE THE FRIGGIN LINK FOR THE MOVIE!!!
Posted: Fri, 6th Feb 2004, 1:24am
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I thought the cinematography was really well done and i am way jealous of those guns and ATV's you guys have
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 9:10am
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Awesome movie, very watchable and entertaining. I actually enjoyed sitting through a movie for once. I saw this movie a long time ago, but i never saw this "uncensored" version. While i didnt notice any changes, its been too long to remember the original.
This movie had alot of interesting and cool scenes in it. Obviously, alot of time and effort went into it, as it turned out as good as it did.
The best parts of it:
The slick 80's opening, complete with the light filtering.
The very well shot and somewhat realistic shootout. (by realistic i mean the effects looked like they were actually coming from the guns)
Awesome slomo firecrackers.
The cigar hitting the gas was a great homage to all those mid 80's action movies.
the helicopter looked pretty realistic in the scene, although it might be due to the compression.
The "deathcam" was pretty sweet, with its sound filtering style and visuals.
The contract-dolly with the sniper was really slick.
Things that could be improved for P2
Acting was a little "line reading esque"
the camera work at the beginning was slightly jumpy and made it look less movie like.
Whoever has the longer hair probably shoulda tucked it into that bandana or a hat or something, since it was immediately obvious who it was.
Other than that, great job, its probably still one of the top 5 most entertaining movies, along with DXM and Foolschool X, which was one of the funniest bizzare movie/parody on the site.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 11:26pm
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This movie was great. The action was insane. I liked the part where all the quads came over the hill that was a good shot. Although in the begining the acting was kind of fast but the rest was great.
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 7:06am
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Alright, really now, when is that dang pharmacide 2 getting finished?
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 10:34am
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That film was ok. I recal seeing the end of it before (the barn bit). I thought the acting/camerawork and dialogue for the opening sequence let the overall film down. The cuttng didn't work and the sound was very poor (dialogue wise).
obviously you had access to land with a barn and some flat land that you used extensively. It didn't feel very real though, maybe the cast were too young to be convincing.
The SFX were reasonable, some better than other. I though meatier sound would have helped, sounded a lot like Half life sounds mixed in. Also the falling scenes all looked like the guy falling was jumping, he leaned into each fall and jumped.
The second half had much better cutting though and a better flow for the camera angles.
What was with the exposure? Was that intentional. Good luck with your next projects.