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Posted: Thu, 10th Apr 2003, 5:32pm

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Hey, your buddy McMurph here. I'm just hanging out at school, supposed to be doing a bridge project of some sort, but wasting my life here on Alam instead. Anyone else doing the same?

Shout out to Aculag, who isn't in school. Also shout out to B4UAsk30Male because he most likely isn't in school.

Uh oh, teacher's coming, gotta run!
Posted: Thu, 10th Apr 2003, 5:37pm

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Yeah, I'm at school too. I'm suppsed to be looking-up science notes, but I'm here instead. I'm a freshman in high school, so I guess it's expected that I'm lazy. wink
Posted: Thu, 10th Apr 2003, 5:39pm

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Hah, wait 'till your a senior (me). I've done about 0 work all day. Its so fun. I just commanded the Junior I'm working with to build the bridge and he did, and I did little of the work.
Posted: Thu, 10th Apr 2003, 6:14pm

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Yep, I'm in school too. Sophomore in HS. Today has been pretty easy for me since I went out with one of my classes and didn't get back until lunch, which is where I am now. Yep, I pretty much spend my lunches on the computers in the library. (I'm a nerd and DAMN proud!)
Posted: Thu, 10th Apr 2003, 6:44pm

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Nope! I'm not at school. I'm busy going back and forth playing splinter cell and creating some wicked test effects for our matrix movie. It's gonna be good.
Posted: Thu, 10th Apr 2003, 7:04pm

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I was in school a few minutes ago...

But, hey, I have 4th hour Independant study! I get to go home, eat lunch, and make movies! (current project: DXM)
Posted: Thu, 10th Apr 2003, 8:43pm

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Im ofcousre in school, and so on for another 3 years (many girls.. yummi)
Posted: Fri, 11th Apr 2003, 12:16pm

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I'm at school now, junior in HS, and dreading the time when the first bell is gonna ring...45 minutes?? I've always wondered why do I come here so damn early confused ?
Posted: Fri, 11th Apr 2003, 1:48pm

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Yep, at school right now. Not much going on. Actually, I'm in my digital arts class. Better get back to work.
Posted: Fri, 11th Apr 2003, 6:09pm

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Here in the easiest class, Comm. Tech. We do nothing except play games! biggrin Of course, I'll actually have to start doing stuff after I go to high school next year, but it's fun now!
Posted: Fri, 11th Apr 2003, 7:15pm

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Enjoy your time at school... you will never have so much free time for making movies again... smile
Posted: Sat, 12th Apr 2003, 6:06pm

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As much as I hate to say it, thats probably dead on true there, Sollthar.

But hey, if you become a world famous director and make 30 million per movie, you'll be making movies all the time!
Posted: Wed, 23rd Apr 2003, 6:16pm

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im at school now, in my computer animation class. everyone else is working on a project, but im having fun in the forums lol
Posted: Wed, 23rd Apr 2003, 6:38pm

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I am in my final month of college (recently aged 18 ) and I am looking forward to finish college and have my gap year!

Yeah! smile

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Posted: Wed, 23rd Apr 2003, 6:39pm

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Roxygirl577 wrote:

im at school now, in my computer animation class. everyone else is working on a project, but im having fun in the forums lol
Is that the only course you take?
Posted: Wed, 23rd Apr 2003, 8:40pm

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technically, you could say I'm in school. . . . but it's really more of a job than school. . . .
Posted: Wed, 23rd Apr 2003, 10:01pm

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Hehe, the teacher speaking smile
Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2003, 4:29am

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nop Im still in High School, so I have six lovely classes rolleyes
Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2003, 8:03am

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Well, this is a bit late but I'M NOT IN SCHOOL. I haven't been for 3 years. Hmm, I wonder why the teachers haven't noticed I've been gone all this time? Slightly worrying...
Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2003, 3:58pm

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Ah I left school almost a year ago. Now I'm in college which is much better, the first week we made a chase film on those office chairs with wheels and a big T.V. camera, bombing around college causing much mayhem. That was sweet!!!

I've often wondered at what age do you americans leave "high school" 'cos in all them american films people are still at school and look aound 30 smile (see Starship Troopers)
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well I'll be 17 when i graduate (in two months), but most people are 18. But hey there are some occasions when you see a 30 year old walking on the graduation stage eek
Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2003, 4:24pm

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Ah just wondering, thanks.
Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2003, 4:26pm

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A few of my friends messed up their first years of A Levels and had to stay back another year just to proceed into Esher College' last year.

Its getting hard now. Philosophy is hard!

I look forward to Wimbledon tennis coming about again, I get money for being a ballboy and normally get a couple of hours of throwing Anna Kournakova my balls.

twisted Tennis is crap. Till its Wimbledon biggrin
Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2003, 4:28pm

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er-no wrote:

and normally get a couple of hours of throwing Anna Kournakova my balls.
how long had you been waiting to say that? lol
Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2003, 4:29pm

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Ice_Man wrote:

er-no wrote:

and normally get a couple of hours of throwing Anna Kournakova my balls.
how long had you been waiting to say that? lol
Since the 2000 Championships.

I now feel happy and complete.
Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2003, 4:44pm

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hehe
I had a feeling it was at least a couple years. . . .
Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2003, 4:55pm

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er-no wrote:

I look forward to Wimbledon tennis coming about again, I get money for being a ballboy and normally get a couple of hours of throwing Anna Kournakova my balls.
It's all fun and games until you have to throw your balls to Pete Sampras . AAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEE!!!!
Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2003, 5:47pm

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Hahahahahhaha Pete Sampras. That's a good one. +1.
Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2003, 8:46pm

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I was at school, then I left, and now I'm here.

Well, that was yesterday.

Right now i have all my serious classes, History (from begining of time till 16th century) English ( i hate shakespeare, i hope he dies...oh wait), Financial Accounting (dont do homework and somehow holding 88%) and gym (first period class, wakes me up, and i hate it).

Summer is when I'll be making alot of films, now just writing.
Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2003, 1:43am

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Yeah I don't like Shakespeare either, did you know that he hated women???! I think he was gay eek
Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2003, 1:51am

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Think? I'm pretty sure that its an accepted fact now...

Whatever, the guy made up words (no, he did. its not old english) so that it would sound, well, i guess sound 'nice', but most of the time it was crap.
Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2003, 2:20am

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Yeah I agree

I had to suffer through Hamlet and Macbeth this year, and I didn't understand any of it. confused
Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2003, 2:30am

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Don't worry, you're not alone. wink
Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2003, 3:25am

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well, I'm not going to debate his sexual preference (did you see those 'outfits' he wore?!) but it wasn't uncommon for men to look down on women in shakespeare's time.


but I happen to enjoy shakespearean plays. pity if the rest of you don't.
it takes a rather developed intellect to understand shakespeare's plays. . . but, when I was in high school, I didn't really understand them either. . . they grew on me when I was in college smile
Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2003, 3:41am

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Well, I just finished a unit on King Lear, and I understand little of the actual dialogue. The content though, I understand fairly well (teacher explained and stupid essay), but shakespears stories are just not good.

Twelfth Night was one of the worst thought out stories i have ever read. Quite a few flaws.

King Lear is a pointless tragedy, except for Edmund's character who is actually not that bad (not his personality, but the actual character). A good tragedy, (tho not old english) is death of a salesman.

Romeo and Juliet though, is good in two parts. The idea of the two waring (sp) families and the love between one member from each. And the end, how they both die.


Also keep in mind that shakespeare took many ideas from others and changed very little (classic example being Twelfth Night) and just put his horrible dialogue in. (who the hell talks like that, and who enjoys listening to it????!!!!)


woah, just remembered the topic, which I'm way off of.
Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2003, 3:46am

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I would have to say the best tragedy I have read is Oedipus Rex by Sophocles. This story of course deals with the King that killed his father and married his mother, all without knowing it. The dialogue and writing is magnificent and like I said is just a terrific tragedy to read.

As for good ol' Bill...Personally I would have to go with my good friend Hamlet...
Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2003, 3:52am

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it's not the stories themselves that are spectacular. . . when it comes right down to it, there have been no original stories for several centuries. . . just different tellings and combinations of old stories

it's the way he tells the story; his "horrible dialogue,", as you put it. it's poetry; not horrible dialogue. iambic pentameter, actually. but, since you're studying this, you probably already know that

it'll grow on you. I say that because of experience. in time, you will learn to appreciate it, shakespeare really isn't for all ages.

Oedipus Rex was a very good piece of literature
I'd actually have to say that The Merchant of Venice, or Othello is my favorite of Shakespeare's; I can't decide which
Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2003, 4:31am

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and just for fun :
http://www.jetlink.net/~massij/shakes/gay.html



however, if you hate his work because you think he's gay. . . take Sire Ian McKellan into consideration
Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2003, 10:37am

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I had to do Shakespeare in school. I have to admit it all got a bit boring after several months. Romeo and Juliet is a good story, I decided to make a modern day action flick from that story. But make it better than "Romeo Must Die" that only had the vaguest of connections to it and that other one with Leonard De Cappucino, that was shoot.
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Oh yeah Leslie Cheung was gay as well, he was pretty cool.
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Ice_man: I'm sorry, 'bad poetry' then, not horrible dialogue wink

And I do there have been original stories, even if they would slightly resemble something else. What I'm saying about shakespeare is that his were very close (maybe even identical, i dont know, i haven't actually read all of them) to others. In twelfth night, the location and the names are different. And then his bad poetry wink

I don't hate his work cuz he's gay, i really dont care. He could have been an ape-loving, tree hugger and it wouldn't matter. I just don't like his work.

Sir Ian McKellen is a good actor and I enjoy seeing him in films (Apt pupil, xmen)

Two_gunned saint: I actually think that the Baz Luhrmann version of Romeo and Juliet was great. That's the first thing that made me think, "hey, maybe shakespeares stories are not that bad"...but then i read twelfth night, so my opinion changed back.
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Personally I hated all of the Shakepeare I've read... except for two of his plays...

Julius Caesar: This one is friggen' awesome, the story is great and it's really easy to understand. Caesar gets stabbed like 42(?) times in it twisted !! What more can you ask for?

Macbeth: This one is fricken awesome too cool . You have your witches and medievil sword fights. It just awesome.

everything else I've read, which is most of his other stuff, I've hated with a firey burning passion! biggrin
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"I actually think that the Baz Luhrmann version of Romeo and Juliet was great. "

you could be right actually. It's been some time since I've seen it and when i did see it, I wasn't into films as much, although I saw the trailer the other day and it does look quite good. It's just Leonard De Cappucino acting hard, that ruined "Gangs of New York" for me.
Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2003, 2:26pm

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Thanks, Ice_Man for sticking up for one of our universal, let alone national, treasures...

I don't quite understand what Cypher's saying in his last post, but one thing I'd like to say is you shouldn't judge Shakespeare by Twelth Night. That play was one of his entertainment plays, written for the enjoyment of the people who lived in his time...it's like a latter-day sitcom.

Read or see Macbeth, Othello, Julius Caeser, Hamlet and The Merchant of Venice - they're his best plays and are the most relevant to our times. They are great studies of discrimination, corruption, racism and hypocrisy.

I can understand people's dislike of Shakes because most people are introduced to his plays suddenly, for exam purposes. I had the privilege to first read one of his plays aged 6 so I've grown up with it and find it easier to understand.

There may be other stories like the ones depicted in his plays but this shows you that his plays are universal, and as I said, relevant to us. R & J is good, but it does have many unnecessary scenes (to pander to the tastes of the people of the day), so I think the works it has inspired are better, like West Side Story and Baz's R & J.

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it's understandable that you don't like Twelth Night, Shakespeare wrote it for a rather specific audience for when it first ran. it's not one of my personal favorites, either; despite it's classification as one of his best comedies
Twelfth Night is largely based on a the romantic story Apolonius and Silla from a book called Farewell to Military Profession by a rather forgotten writer called Barnabe Rich.
the only elements that Twelth Night shares with Apolonius and Silla are the shipwreck, twins, and a woman disguising herself as a man.
and there's a lot more to the story than just that.
and you know, even Barnabe Rich didn't write the original story. he'd taken it from a book of French stories, which were based on a similar book in Italian - and it can ultimately be traced to an old Italian play written in about 1530 called, in English, The Deceived One.

but to hate all of his work for Twelth Night is ridiculous! :

Cypher wrote:

"...but then i read twelfth night, so my opinion changed back.
and it's not bad poetry either. the fact that 400 some odd years later his plays are STILL being performed actually quite proves the opposite.

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Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2003, 2:29pm

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Henry V is good.
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Well, ive read in their entirety (sp) 3 of his plays. twelfth night, king lear, and R & J, and read shorter versions of Macbeth, a midsummer's night (and the movie), All's well that ends well and Titus Andronicus.

out of all of those, i liked R & J and macbeth, non of the others.

i hear that hamelet is good, but i don't know.


as of what ive read from the guy, i don't like him. maybe there are better plays that he did out there, but it doesn't much look like it.
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Actually Julius Ceaser is the only book that I liked, it i a lot easier to understand. The rest of it i just dont understand, maybe i'll appreciate it mre in college, but for right now I'll stick with avoiding his stories for awhile. I do like the movies though especially Hamlet, but thats just me, I rather watch a movie than read a book smile
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Hamlet rocks.

I'm not surprised people don't like reading Shakespeare, though. You're not supposed to read Shakespeare!!! I really, really dislike the way schools insist students read Shakespeare, especially often at too young an age. Sometimes they don't even take the students to see the plays.

I mean, in film studies you watch the films, right? You don't read the screenplays, dagnammit.

Anyway, yeah. Shakespeare rocks. But don't judge him on what you read, judge him on what you see. Go see a really good production on stage, or watch a good film adaptation.

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very nicely put, tarn.
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I hated Shakespeare until I actually read one of his works. Freshmen year I read Romeo and Juliet, which is excellent, then sophmore year I read Julius Ceaser, which was also good. Junior year we studied American literature (which I don't like for the most part), then senior year (now) we read Macbeth (his best so far), all his Sonnets (which are also very good, departure from the typical iambic pantameter), and are now currently reading Hamlet (halfway through Act IV).

Also, who here liked the movie Ten Things I hate About You? Based off a little play called The Taming Of The Shrew. Or how about O with Josh Hartnett? Othello. Little Nicky? King Lear (somewhat). West Side Story? Romeo and Juliet (except for the end).

If you liked any of those movies, YOU AUTOMATICALLY LIKE SHAKESPEARE. Its written in the Constitution.

Another famour arguement: was Shakespeare real? My answer is no, it was that Earl character.
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I liked 10 things, but didn't like Taming of the Shrew. Too subversive. I mean, it's about a guy trying to marry an independent woman who actually has a bit of individualism. The play just consists of him wearing her out so much that she gives in and acknowledges he is her master. confused It seems to imply that the woman's place is in the home, to be at the beck and call of her husband, subservient at all times. neutral

I like being waited on hand and foot eek , but that was too much for me. It was funny, but I'm sure there was a huge male fanbase when it first came out. It could even have been a latter day equivalent of conditioning and media manipulation...

Mel wink
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Well look at the time that Shakespeare was writing in, dominating females were not en vogue. You have to give him credit for that.

There's no way this play could come out now, because of the large feminist movement and all, but I think Shakespeare made it smart enoguh for men and women to like it.

None of his plays are really offensive to anyone really. I haven't read all his plays, obviously, but I'm willing to bet he didn't write The Taming Of The Shrew to state that women belong in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.
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...But Katharine wasn't a dominant female at the end of it was she confused But yes, you have to give him credit for the originality! razz

No, he was quite a liberal thinker and ahead of his time. I don't know who now would compare to him.

Hmm...interesting how far we've strayed off the topic of the original post! lol

Mel wink