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The Matrox: Rescue

Posted: Mon, 19th May 2003, 9:28am

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Matrix-style film / matrix fanfilm

Production: June 2002
Post: June 2002 to Feb 2003

There's a captured rebel being held by an agent. Two other rebels go and rescue him. Hurray for the complicated plotline. Sorry, no screenshot.

Waiting for comments....! smile
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Posted: Mon, 19th May 2003, 11:42am

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it's very slow to download
3.70kb per sec ( is it just me )
When done it will be over 2 and half hours on broadband cry
Posted: Mon, 19th May 2003, 12:01pm

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im getting it slooooowly aswell, average of 7kb/sec on broadband sad
Posted: Mon, 19th May 2003, 12:01pm

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downloading in 2.5 kbit.. tooooooo slow! and i got frekin 2.5 mbit! biggrin
Posted: Mon, 19th May 2003, 2:07pm

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i got it done, i like it. the bit with the 360 degree punch and the massive blur looks very good

dan
Posted: Mon, 19th May 2003, 2:17pm

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Boo, I thought this was going to be a film showing me how to resurrect my semi-mediocre Matrox graphics card! rolleyes biggrin

Downloading...I'll post a comment once it's downloaded! razz

Mel wink
Posted: Mon, 19th May 2003, 3:00pm

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Hi
( feel free to vote and comment on other peoples films twisted

As requested comments.

I will give this film 5. ( but almost 4 ) because some things I thought could have made it better

A tripod, ( if you did have one, you only used it in a few shots )

The credits ( turns out they are 4 mins out of the 8 mins film, as people are struggling to download i would have cut them off or down )

It seemed a lot like the kerzillion of other films on here with young guys going around the house with guns.

that said, I enjoyed it and fx were used well.
Posted: Tue, 20th May 2003, 3:23am

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b4uask30male,

> feel free to vote and comment on other peoples films
yes, i'm a bit slack on that... sorry

> A tripod, ( if you did have one, you only used it in a few shots )
yes, i actually used a (poorly made) stabliser for most shots. i thought the 'stedi-cam' shots were a lot less shaky than most ppl's. any particular bits u're referring to?

> The credits ( turns out they are 4 mins out of the 8 mins film, as people are struggling to download i would have cut them off or down )
yes, sorry - the end ones are the long ones. the opening credits take the length they do because the sound is telling a small story there, about how someone is being beaten up.

>It seemed a lot like the kerzillion of other films on here with young guys going around the house with guns.
like i said - unoriginal story. it's actually a cut down version of a more interesting, but still unoriginal story.

>that said, I enjoyed it and fx were used well.
thanx! that was the general idea.
Posted: Tue, 20th May 2003, 3:25am

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Hmm...
Posted: Tue, 20th May 2003, 3:51pm

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Rating: +1

Not bad that. But for me, the thing that pulled down my vote was the lack of real sound. Too many times, I felt like there was only music to listen to. It made the whole thing a bit cold to watch and listen to.

That said, I did like a lot of the ideas and the gate jump was nicely done. Have to agree with b4 on those titles though. But mainly, more compression would've been a good idea!

Adam.

P.S. Tell the guy with the beard to get it cut off. rolleyes lol
Posted: Tue, 20th May 2003, 4:48pm

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+1 adamlightandmagic

I bet we all thought that wink

Abe Lincoln is his next film biggrin
Posted: Tue, 20th May 2003, 5:05pm

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Oh yah! Big beard you got there mister eek

Sheesh
Posted: Tue, 20th May 2003, 6:13pm

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Very very impressive.. Definately one of the best matrix fan films i've seen. Worth the 5 hour download biggrin

I liked it because
You didn't overuse any effects.
it did have (some) plot
filmed well..
great general adaptive ideas.

I would like to know...
What programme you used to blow up the tea cup?
How did you do that spin thing when neo punched the agent?

Great work.. i'll lookforward to seeing your next filml
5STARS
Posted: Tue, 20th May 2003, 9:01pm

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How did you do that spin thing when neo punched the agent?
Well, am I right to think something said "FREEZE!" and then the camera was moved around them? Then a small blur effect was used? And at the end of the movement... "ACTION!"? biggrin

Adam.
Posted: Tue, 20th May 2003, 10:56pm

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how DID u do the bullet time thing? i would like an answer from you, not any one else. THANKS!
Posted: Wed, 21st May 2003, 12:12am

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hey guys, sorry about those slow download speeds, my cable router died the other day, so i've been running on satellite internet, which has a horrible upload speed. should be faster now though
Posted: Wed, 21st May 2003, 12:19am

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Rating: +2

My answer is just as good:

Whoever filmed it took the camera, ran around in a semi-circle, speed up the footage, and masked out the background and directional blurred it.

--->AND IT WORKED kinda<--- (except that was the wussiest hit ever)

Anyways, I didn't like the rest of the movie. The fighting was terrible and the throwing gun stuff was really weird. The cup thing was poor. And why the heck is the agent eating toast? And where are his glasses?

The only things that worked was the swift directing and the color was ALMOST good.

And the "We need lots of guns" thing was kinda funny with that accent (I can't help it - I'm from teh US)! Aye! We need loots avv goons!

BLUNDERING BARNACLES!!! tard
Posted: Wed, 21st May 2003, 1:30am

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That was kinda what I meant, except I didn't go into huge detail. Ah well... confused

Yeah, have to admit that gun throwing thing was weird. I guess it was supposed to be funny? Sorta fell on its face, that... cry

Adam.
Posted: Wed, 21st May 2003, 1:40am

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I think people should stay away from quoting movies in their movies. Especially when it's quoted wrong. It's just corny. The amount of "Dodge this" in movies is unbearable. It's like putting too much salt in your borscht.... Or something... If you can't make up your own dialogue, don't use any. Unless you're remaking something classic like shakespeare or something. Ok, I'll shut up now. neutral
Posted: Wed, 21st May 2003, 1:54am

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thanx for everyones comments! mecha, yours were the funniest!

responses:
TAP2: the cup was modelled, animated and rendered in Maya4. some of my less-than-enthusiastic friends have pointed out that a cup would probably not explode like that, but i had the image in my head of how i wanted it, and it came out pretty much like that.

TAP2, drawstuf99: the 'bullet-time' effect was done the way adamlightandmagic and mechaforce describe it - i had my actors stand in position while i went around them with the camera (i was camera op. and director). in after effects, i animated-masked around them, then directional-blurred the background. to be honest, the physical actions could have been better - there's no emotion in the actors, but that's my fault for not allowing enough time to film, and not knowing exactly how i was going to to the effect. it turned out ok though.

Jagg: i was wondering why it was so slow, but i certainly thank you for the storage space! biggrin

Mecha: yes, your answer was just as good!
yes, like i said, the fighting and actions were kinda 'wussy'. we'll work on that for future productions.
the throwing-gun thingy was supposed to be 'neo' dodging the gun thrown by the agent. problem 1: the agent didn't throw it very well in either take so i had to merge the two, which is why it looks weird (in the outtakes u might notice that u see the agent throw the gun in a really lame way. that was take 1). also interesting: the gun in the shot where 'neo' dodges it and it blurrs past is actually an animated picture - it's not actually a gun. u probably picked that, but i'd be interested to know if u did (or if anyone did..?)
the cup was poor? well it wasn't the best, but it does have an animated shadow and was my first real attempt at anything in Maya, so....
perhaps the agent is eating toast because he is like Smith - no longer an agent, but an anomoly who is learning of human pleasures like eating warm bread?!?!? smile (the real reason was to have him in the kitchen with the cup!)
i love your films and your mentioning 'swift directing' is very much appreciated. yes, i did do some colour correction so that the real world was a bit blue and the matrix/matrox was a bit green. it didn't work exactly the way i wanted, but it still worked...
well, there's nothing i can say about the australian accent. if we'd done it with american accents for u, mecha, all of our australian audience would have accused us of selling out! wink


thanx for the comments! hopefully our next prod. will be almost flawless smile
Posted: Wed, 21st May 2003, 2:00am

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Rating: +2

DAMN IT! i didn't log in. that was me above... ^
Posted: Wed, 21st May 2003, 2:15am

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Don't take my comments too personally or seriously, please. I thought you were in Scotland or something! Austrailia!!? Wow! What a...place! Yeah!

But seriously folks - if you're on a PC you should use 3D Max for your animations (the cup thingy could have been done REALLY easy and REALLY fast) because it's easy. If you feel aprehensive, let me put it like this: a monkey could learn 3D max.

A really smart monkey.
Posted: Wed, 21st May 2003, 2:43am

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I thought you were in Scotland or something!
Oh Mecha! Damn it, I'm from Scotland!! cool

Hey cmetom, u guys are in Australia!? Damn... wasn't picking up an Australian accent. doh. Hmm... smile

Adam.
Posted: Wed, 21st May 2003, 4:11am

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when i try to download it it doesent let me. i download it to the desk top but then it says error.
please help!! confused
thanks smile
Posted: Wed, 21st May 2003, 4:19am

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You need to get a better server, it's not working for me now, and it said i'd take like 2 hours when I did, and i'm on DSL. And I really want to see it! Best of luck! biggrin
Posted: Wed, 21st May 2003, 4:21am

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Rating: +1

Hahah. Too lazy to sign in, but you're not too lazy to type "to lazy to sighn in"? That's classic.
Posted: Wed, 21st May 2003, 2:05pm

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how do i get a different server.
and yes i was and am still to lazy to sighn in!! its been one long week wink
Posted: Thu, 22nd May 2003, 12:52am

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I watch this movie a second time and I laughed really hard.

Whew! If you had a new audio track with tons of jokes in it you could've made the movie 10 times better! What's with the dude running after the agent trying to hit him with the gun? And when the agents gets hit with a gun - I mean, in the Matrix, throwing a gun at an agent would be trying to kill someone with a freakin' cotton ball.

lol lol lol

But the movie was a GOOD kind of funny.
Posted: Thu, 22nd May 2003, 9:36am

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duh!

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Posted: Thu, 22nd May 2003, 9:37am

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i have the answer to that bullet time thing... it is a plugin from the plugin section which is actually caled bullet time, so basically he just used a plugin/special effect to slow the bullets down!, oh and sorry I replied, i know i should not have but i wanted to answer it cos i had nothing else to say! confused
Posted: Thu, 22nd May 2003, 10:29pm

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darth_paul_goku wrote:

that bullet time thing... it is a plugin from the plugin section which is actually caled bullet time
if u read my other posts, u'll see that mecha was right...

also, i can't find this 'bullet time' plugin in the plugins section (the search facility sucks -no offence). can u give me the link? i'd like to see it.
also, what do u mean i used it to 'slow down the bullets'? which scene are u referring to?

in actual fact the only thing i used alamdv2 for were the gun flashes.

also, i'm cool guys - i'm quite interested to see what others think of it. the reason i like rebutting with an explanation is just so i can share how i did the effects, and LEARN! learning rocks.
Posted: Thu, 22nd May 2003, 10:38pm

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I cant see it!! Can u give me a *.mov version or sumthen?
Posted: Fri, 23rd May 2003, 12:26am

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this weekend (hopefully) i'll work on a smaller divx/avi and a mov as well.

does anyone know the procedure for having another file added to the "the matrox: rescue" cinema listing? i.e. so there's three different downloads of different sizes/formats?

also it's my birthday today - i'm 20. happy birthday to me!
Posted: Fri, 23rd May 2003, 3:29am

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darth_paul_goku wrote:

i have the answer to that bullet time thing... it is a plugin from the plugin section which is actually caled bullet time, so basically he just used a plugin/special effect to slow the bullets down!, oh and sorry I replied, i know i should not have but i wanted to answer it cos i had nothing else to say! confused
...kid, what the f*ck are you even talking about? "Bullet Time" plug-in?

p.s. I hate your sig, its f*cking huge and really annoying.
Posted: Fri, 23rd May 2003, 3:37am

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Hey, orion... I say we attack!
Posted: Fri, 23rd May 2003, 3:53am

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For sure Aculag. Weren't we going to do that before? hehe,




mad seriously, Bullet Time plug-in? tard were you talking about the actual Bullet plugin?
Posted: Fri, 23rd May 2003, 7:05am

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luck here, why not watch The test to see the bullet time plugin effect in use, look how the bad guy stops the bullet just like in the Matrix! its in the guns section of plugins, look harder! confused

and i will change my picture! (only if you stop been nasty to me) evil
Posted: Fri, 23rd May 2003, 7:41am

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Yeah, there's a plugin called bullet time, but it really doesn't look anything like the one in the movie...
Posted: Fri, 23rd May 2003, 7:08pm

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I tried to watch this movie a few times but all I got when I streamed it or downloaded it was 'Mouse Made'. I did get the audio part though. Its pretty funny lisening to the audio and not the video, especially when the guy is panting like a dog.
Posted: Fri, 23rd May 2003, 7:09pm

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I don't know how to rate this film because the over all quality of the film was good but it should be with that file size. The story was ok better than most of what you see here in the cinema. The directing, acting, and cinematography were better than most here. That brings us to the reason why we are all here EFFECTS Which over all ranged from suckas to embarassingly redface suckas except for a couple of the muzzle flashes before they "ran out of bullets"(lots of guns but only a couple of bullets is that what she said?) The cup thing was terrible, I know you probably spent alot of time on it but man why drag down your movie with crap that didn't turn out. I saw in the end credits there were outtakes so you should have taken it out. The gun throwing thing looked about as queer as it could. Even the bullet time effect which didn't look that bad by the way had to be ruined by that little girl hit redface you did a bunch of good stuff here but this is a special effects site so I will hve to give you a low 3
next time
1) compression way to big especially with slow downloading server
2) shorten the credits(you could make a lot of head way by reducing the blank screebn between names to a couple of frames instead of a full second or more
3) if it doesn't work or look good edit it out
4) fight scenes like men not ten year old girls
5) lots of guns = lots of bullets guns are for shooting not throwing
6) Don't let critic like me dicourage you just strive to make it better
7) SHAVEthe beard a nice 5 o'clock shadow might be the look for you

Look forward to seeing you next project
Posted: Sun, 25th May 2003, 5:51pm

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well i have the same problem as mark, why does it do this? i am eager to see this movie cuz i love the matrix
Posted: Sun, 25th May 2003, 5:54pm

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well i have the same problem as mark, why does it do this? i am eager to see this movie cuz i love the matrix
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well i have the same problem as mark, why does it do this? i am eager to see this movie cuz i love the matrix
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Wow. No need to post three times... psycho... wink
Posted: Sun, 25th May 2003, 6:14pm

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someone host it..
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sorry about that, my comp crashed or something... im kinda new so how do i get rid of em?
Posted: Mon, 26th May 2003, 1:52am

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justinsane, thanx (i think) for the tough love.

a minimal amount of time was taken, doing physical effects like fight scenes - really, the whole thing was made so i could try and do about half a dozen VFX that i had visualised in my head and wanted to try out.

anyway, i thank u and everyone - another matrixy fan film is underway, and i'll be taking into account everything you've all said.


and okay, 30megs is too big. redface sorry.

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if i make one that's smaller, say 5 to 10megs, maybe edited with less credit-bits,
a) would this be an acceptable download for 8mins?
b) how would i go about having it linked on the cinema page here? do i just do the normal "uploading a movie" form page, and the ppl in charge will add it?
]
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cmetom notloggedin wrote:

justinsane, thanx (i think) for the tough love.

a minimal amount of time was taken, doing physical effects like fight scenes - really, the whole thing was made so i could try and do about half a dozen VFX that i had visualised in my head and wanted to try out.

anyway, i thank u and everyone - another matrixy fan film is underway, and i'll be taking into account everything you've all said.


and okay, 30megs is too big. redface sorry.

[
if i make one that's smaller, say 5 to 10megs, maybe edited with less credit-bits,
a) would this be an acceptable download for 8mins?
b) how would i go about having it linked on the cinema page here? do i just do the normal "uploading a movie" form page, and the ppl in charge will add it?
]
Since I'm on 56k I have yet to view your movie but a 5-10 meg download would be acceptable and just replace the new edit at the same location as this one. So that http://my-matrix-movie now links to the new version as opposed to this one. If you see what I mean. Bah it's hard to explainand I'm tired.
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the credits are okay - it's just the ones at the beggining go on and on.. cut them out in your next film.
Posted: Wed, 28th May 2003, 2:19am

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okay, great. i get what u mean....

i've made it all small and i cut up the credits and stuff... special "internet cut". it's ~7meg so that should be okay i hope.

i'll post it by friday... sorry about the trouble, 56k ppl.

based on what ppl have said, my second matrix fan film story has morphed (yet again! it's the only way to write - let your idea change and it will grow), and now perhaps the "matrix: rescue" events will be part of the new film - as if ":rescue" was a preview/teaser short.
what do ppl think of this? (it might be hard to tell, not knowing the rest of my ideas, but i'll post some preview stuff about it all... somewhere.... soon).
Posted: Wed, 28th May 2003, 9:54am

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if you do make a long film, don't include that
you will almost certainly get a negative response and complaints thay we've allready seen it e.t.c
If i were you, i'd say that was a test film for my upcoming film.
If you do make a big film, don't make it last too long.
It's allways best to have something short but good quality than long and crap...

anyways, i'll look forward to seeing it.
Posted: Sat, 31st May 2003, 7:11am

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I like it. Just like the other person said< "How did you do that spin thing when neo punched the agent? " And how did you do the simulated TV flickering in the beginning of the film? Nice job really keep my interest.
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sorry it took so long, folks!

i should be around a bit more, too - got the internet at home now!

anyway, there's a special 'internet cut' of the picture, which is only 7 megs. that's 7 megs for 5 1/2 minutes!

enjoy.
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Just got the 'internetcut' and thought it was terrible to be quite honest...

Had some kewl ideas, and i like the way u did the zooming out of the monitor stuff, and had potential, but it was too quiet, hardly any music in the silent bits, not enough action, rather dull if u ask me...

Having said this, i haven't seen the full one (i'm on a 56k) hope it's good...

TMM
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TMM wrote:

Just got the 'internetcut' and thought it was terrible to be quite honest...

Had some kewl ideas, and i like the way u did the zooming out of the monitor stuff, and had potential, but it was too quiet, hardly any music in the silent bits, not enough action, rather dull if u ask me...

Having said this, i haven't seen the full one (i'm on a 56k) hope it's good...

TMM
full one is no longer available, i don't think. in any case, it's exactly the same. the opening credits have sound, telling a story of the guy being kidnapped. the closing credits have outtakes next to them.

didn't like it, huh? well it's hard not to be angry but that's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

looking at it with as little bias as possible, i think it's a nice, neat little package. i have previously admitted that i am unhappy with the physical action and sound editing, but outside of that i like it.

anyhow... this place seems to rely on the forum/community, seeing as ADV3 still isn't out. i haven't been here in 6 months, by the way. no offence, but do u guys have day jobs or something? maybe microsoft are helping you, hence the pushing back of the release date?