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Posted: Mon, 2nd Jun 2003, 9:56am

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Love, hostage taking, revenge, gun fights, car chases...its all here. All in this classic tale of a man and his fight to get his woman back. Full of guns, fighting, and some very Matrix-like scenes.
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Posted: Mon, 2nd Jun 2003, 1:37pm

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Humm,

First of all, the edit:ing wasn't the best, like.. hard to explain but at some parts u could have cutted it more... the car chase, i didnt understand that it was a car chase, the fighting was okey..

Not the greatest music...

bla..bla..bla.. it was okey.
Posted: Mon, 2nd Jun 2003, 3:25pm

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Well i liked it in parts, i agree with andreas that the editing could of been a little sharper if you know what i mean and i also didnt know that it was a car chase at first but the fighting was pretty decent and the effects put to good use, all around i think a 4 smile
Posted: Mon, 2nd Jun 2003, 5:31pm

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grate job!!!

im going to woch this meny times. i hav'int sen a good matrix jum in a long time.keep up the graet werk wink
Posted: Mon, 2nd Jun 2003, 5:41pm

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That wasn't good...no no not good at all...I hope you aren't proud of that...

Comments: The editing was horrible...and so were the effects. Story was non existent and the acting was incredibly bad...my suggestion is that you take more pride in your work...Not trying to be harsh just trying to be truthful.

Canta confused
Posted: Mon, 2nd Jun 2003, 6:22pm

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i only get audio
Posted: Mon, 2nd Jun 2003, 7:57pm

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I also thought that the acting was horrid. And the "fight" at the end where the guy kicks the other guy, and the other guy runs away, then the guy follows him and kicks him again.... dayom.
Posted: Mon, 2nd Jun 2003, 8:01pm

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AndrewtheActorMan wrote:

i only get audio
You need the DIVX codec (www.divx.com)
Posted: Mon, 2nd Jun 2003, 8:10pm

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Erm, the only bit that impressed me was when the guy jumped up on to the play thingy. How did you do that bit, bluescreening or wires or what?
Posted: Mon, 2nd Jun 2003, 8:13pm

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If I had my guess it was filmed with him jumping off of it, then reversed.
Posted: Mon, 2nd Jun 2003, 8:21pm

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I thought that, but the leg movements seem perfect for it, guess they actually got that bit right (no offence)
Posted: Mon, 2nd Jun 2003, 9:38pm

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The music is way too overused and didn't fit. I thought it was going to be a comedy with that opening song.

The editing wasn't the greatest and neither was the camera work.

The special effects were iffy...as your muzzle flashes were backwards. May want to watch for that next time.
Posted: Tue, 3rd Jun 2003, 12:57am

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I've seen that matrix spin thing, when the camera goes around the guy when hes in mid air not moving, a couple of times. Would anybody mind telling me how that is done. You could post it or you could write me an email at SITHEDrew21@netscape.net . If you could do that it would be great.

Drew
Posted: Tue, 3rd Jun 2003, 1:18am

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blaine

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try this http://www.nccinema.ch/esfx11.html
Posted: Tue, 3rd Jun 2003, 1:18am

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blaine

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try this http://www.nccinema.ch/esfx11.html
Posted: Tue, 3rd Jun 2003, 5:54am

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okay, okay, I know its not the best thing ever. It was actually thrown together in a day or two. We filmed most of the day memorial day...I go to school from 7 AM to 2:30 PM, leave right for work, get home from work at 11 PM and then I edited it through 2 days like that. (Who needs sleep anyways?)
So given the rushed circumstances, it could have been worse?

But to answer some questions, yes he did just jump off backwards and then it was reversed. We've had him to it lots for stuff, he's got pretty good at making it look real, even landing in a full-out run from a 12 foot drop.

-Fett
Posted: Tue, 3rd Jun 2003, 6:47am

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Frozen Inferno huh???....I guess that fits...cuz your movies will be good when hell freezes over....hahaha

Canta unsure
Posted: Wed, 4th Jun 2003, 1:20am

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Hey,

Fist of all Brian, I think you did a great job on this movie. This is the best one that you have made so far, it should get great reviews. It was very realistic and I loved the acting by the "villan" Paul Gold. I also thought that the gun clips looked really good. I hope you keep up the good work, after I saw it my first remark was "WOW!" I hope that you and your group continue your work and turn out a few more for us to enjoy. This is the best "Matrix" style movie that I have seen in a long time.

Ps. How did you get the guns for the scenes? Were they real?
Posted: Wed, 4th Jun 2003, 2:43am

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Oh man that real rich...this movie wasn't good and everyone knows it...hahahaha i chuckle everytime i see that piece of crap sitting on my desktop...hahaha

Canta unsure
Posted: Wed, 4th Jun 2003, 7:31am

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Yeah, my parents really liked my movies too. Haha.
Posted: Wed, 4th Jun 2003, 6:18pm

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Rating: +1

I'm amazed that Aculag had the nerve to critic this film negatively. Check out his "Action Movie" and you'll realize that his comments are really just intended as a running joke.

IMHO, this skit had some good things going for it. The story wasn't one of them, but frankly, I could care less about story on this site. I download these movies to see cool effects and cool action, which this movie has plenty of.

Some things this picture had going for it.

Cute Girl
Guy with cool over coat and glasses willing to jump off a high place backwards (That came off really cool)
A decent editor
Nice sunny settings.
Cool looking country side
Decent Music
The Gun fighting was pretty cool
The sliding board thing was neat.


The acting could have been a little better. I think you should have just left any dialouge out since it wasn't terribly germaine to all the action.

The worse thing about this flik was the hand to hand fighting. It would really behove you guys next project to find someone with a little karate or boxing training and actually put a little time into the coreography. I sensed that it wasn't really your focus in this, but it would have help the overall to have the fighting just a little stronger.

Anyways, I enjoyed this one. I just kept thinking how much better it was than anything I've seen from Aculag the Critical to date. Keep it up. Can't wait to see your next.

Regards,
Brent
Posted: Wed, 4th Jun 2003, 8:08pm

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i can't believe that you just said that....this movie was one of the worst things i have ever seen...gay cowboys sitting on a fence eating pudding would have been more entertaining....no wait i take that back this movie was extremely entertaining cuz i laughed until i almost freaking peed my pants hahaha...

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Posted: Wed, 4th Jun 2003, 8:13pm

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Don't worry about it, canta. Greybro has something against me because he thinks that I'm overly critical. But that's because he's... well.. one of those "Special" people.
Posted: Wed, 4th Jun 2003, 10:18pm

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That's waaaaaay funnier than Action Movie. Good one. "Special people".

I have nothing against you man, other than your arogant ass posts that just, IMHO seek to diss others.
Posted: Wed, 4th Jun 2003, 10:32pm

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Rating: +2

And how.
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 12:15am

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Uhh CantaClaro, bad news for yah.

Some people take this stuff seriously, and unfortunatley you are the WORST critic that I have seen. if you had any skill or sense of talent you would give this movie a good rating and stop harrassing its editor & producer. Dark Fett did this movie very professionally and in a very short amount of time, he should be proud of himself and his friends for being able to do that. A lot of people I am willing to wager, including you, could not have done so. Is that your whole purpose of even posting in this thread? You have to rag on a good film because someone thought yours sucked? Ohh well I am through with yelling at yah.

Fett you did an awesome job. I hope to see something like it soon. BTW Z-TV rocks wink
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 12:20am

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This is the best "Matrix" style movie that I have seen in a long time.
You must not have seen many "Matrix" style movies, then. No offence to Dark Fett, but this is one of the lower end matrix-type films i've seen.

Not very enjoyable to watch, to tell you the truth. I would classify this as 'decent' as it was made quickly.

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Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 12:28am

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Have some problems using Php BB's Quote option? hehe
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 12:29am

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Yeah, the system doesn't like to quote you...too redundantly stupid wink
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 12:30am

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nm, browser was screwed up. BTW where did you get the insult from? www.stupidinsults.com or www.freakwithnolife.com?
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 12:39am

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No, i didn't know such sites exist, I have better things to do. But i'll venture a guess that those sites have a section on the REFRESH button.
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 12:54am

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i'm gonna have to agree with Heinz on this one. I really enjoyed that movie. I haven't seen any better ones done by high school kids with nothin better to do.

P.S. i'm with ya bryan, you did dun good
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 1:02am

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Oooo...u got lucky dark fett...i was going to click on the image to link to the cinema page and hit rate. u have a free +2 insightful. use it well. wink
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 2:46am

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wow this is one of the funniest threads i have ever seen...this movie is total crap...it will always be crap...i don't give a crap about any of this and it pleases me that yall are getting so pissed...

Canta unsure

P.S.: Heinz...arguing with someone on the internet is like being in the special olympics....even if you win your still retarded...hahaha...chump unsure
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 3:19am

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Yah, and your insults suck badly, why don't you try them out on yourself before you waste your breath on someone who doesn't care?
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 3:32am

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Oh, but you do care. You care alot. In fact, you are jealous of me. Why else would you go and research some stupid sites or pull them out of your bookmarks to try and insult me in some way? Then, if you don't care, why have you replied more than once? You obviously read and have something to say so you care enough to reply.

I reply cuz I'm having fun OWNING you. Now go do something like die...or is that too mean? Hmm. Nah, sounds reasonable to me.
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 3:45am

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Uh...yah. Your really owning me, um I think I will sign off now. Btw who would be jealous of you? Obviously you have no taste, not to mention no life. And for your information those sites were made up in my precious mind. So there yah go, and no I am not going to go die, because I am afraid you might do it first wink
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 3:49am

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Heinz, if you didn't care, you'd brush it off. Not keep arguing.
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 3:52am

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Ok, I do care, when people insult a good movie because they are just a fag that pisses me off, not to mention I love arguing wink
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 4:13am

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it's kinda funny that all of this started with a little school project, but i'm still gonna have to be on Heinz's and Fett's side

and Heinz, Z-TV does rock wink
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 4:53am

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Can't we all just get along? I mean, what the heck? If you don't like it, you could say that once...not like the, lets see...I could count but I do have better things to do. Maybe you should get a job? A life? Girlfriends are nice too...unless you dont go that way

But seriously, how about we stop the bashing now and let other people post their opinions about the movie and not have to read through all of this crap. I never said it was good, didn't brag about it, didn't make trailers for it or hype it up at all. So just get over it. I an personally only 17, and would hope that the average age in this forum would be older, and hopefully more mature than that.

Thanks you all for your time

-Fett
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 6:55am

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I agree, fett. I don't like when people fight. Greybro and I are good examples of that though... I think everyone just needs to get along. Everyone has an opinion. Each to his own, right?
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 11:22am

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Dark Fett: But when you're bored, it's so much fun bashing morons!

Heinz wrote:

Uh...yah. Your really owning me, um I think I will sign off now.
Good, we don't want you here. And I'm glad that you agree.

Heinz wrote:

And for your information those sites were made up in my precious mind.
HAHAHAHA! "precious mind". That's a good one, for a second there I thought you were smarter than the average pile of [insert something bad here], but then you went ahead and said some stupid comeback.

Btw, the difference between me and you is that you would die from stupidity...I would die laughing from your stupidity. It's too funny.
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 2:22pm

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Alright, that is it, it is over. Lets stop this here, like Fett said this thread is for movie reviews, not for insults and pure immaturity (me also.)
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 4:26pm

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Man Cypher you need some butter cuz you're on a roll...haha...sooo much fun...hehe....and im spent...

Canta unsure
Posted: Thu, 5th Jun 2003, 8:17pm

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Heinz wrote:

nm, browser was screwed up. BTW where did you get the insult from? www.stupidinsults.com or www.freakwithnolife.com?
Why would he want to visit your personal websites?
Posted: Fri, 6th Jun 2003, 1:15am

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The movie wasn't that bad, but it had all those little errors that could be fixed with more time and effort. For example, editing could be tighter.

Another thing, your matrix spin was too fast. Slow it down and let us savor it.

You should have more moving, dynamic cameras during the fights, with constant motion in the cuts. Also, if you can do something cool, like that jump, do it more often. It was kind of like the Yoda fight in Ep. II: too short. As opposed to the Burly Brawl, which is awesome.
Posted: Fri, 6th Jun 2003, 4:38am

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Yeah, I would have liked the Matrix spin to be slower. However, this was first done for full TV screen quality, and when it was slower it was too jerky. So I had to speed everything up a little to keep up the fluidty of the spin around. The morphing didn't work out as well as I wanted, and yeah. But it was my first attempt at chroma-keying anything.

Thanks for the contrsuctive criticism.

-Fett
Posted: Fri, 6th Jun 2003, 9:08pm

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People please leave your comments and leave it there. Im not taking any1s side bcuz every1 has their freedom of speech. Personnaly I think the film was ok it wasn't great, but it was ok. That jump thing however was really cool. You shoould've made that girl fight too...maybe a trinity style. Anyways this film was ok it wasnt horrible nor great it was ok. thats all I have to say. biggrin
Posted: Fri, 6th Jun 2003, 10:47pm

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Yeah I think you should have started into the spin fast then slowed down, but it was cool just the same, too bad it wouldn't work in slow-motion. So when are you guys going to make another movie? Over the summer?
Posted: Sat, 7th Jun 2003, 7:49pm

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I've downloaded it however it doesn't work. A thing comes up saying it needs aditional software to work, software that isn't actually available. Anyone got a clue what that's about?9
Posted: Sat, 7th Jun 2003, 7:50pm

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You need a DIV X 5 Codec to play it. Go to their site and dl it, it is like 3.5 mb's
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Right where to begin. The actors seems like a good place to start. The acting was well to say the truth shoddy, however I'm not the type to let that bother me you weren't exactly making a film with Robert DeNiro were you. It was the horrible lack of energy from the guys in white t-shirts during the action scenes, when they're supposed to be running for their life, they're going for a brisk jog. This isn't always the case, when the hero slides about firing the gun, that was good, however the stuntmans rolling over reaction was so lame I was embarassed to watch it. Now when a stuntguy gives a performance with so little energy, sometimes you can cover it up a little bit with some quick cutting. (I'm not a fan of quick cutting but it has it's uses) This brings me neatly to my second point...

The editing. The editing was the worst aspect of it, the pacing was all screwed up so the energy created by the action scenes was very little. There has to be alot of energy in an action scene and a good way to get this is with the editing, before and after a character did something there was a pause. Another thing you could try to do is get it so the energy from one shot flows directly into the next shot. However most hollywood films don't do this so I wouldn't worry about it. Also there was alot of jumpcuts in there. (not to mention continuity, over the course of 3 shots the guy hold a gun in 3 different ways)

The camera. Peoples heads where cut off all the time, the shots seemed to be just achieved by pointing the camera vaguely at the action, without the operator even looking. There was little camera movement, which is essential for an action sequence.

Where John Woo ended "The Killer" with a shootout a church, "A Better Tomorrow 2" with a shootout in a mansion and "Hardboiled" had a shootout in a hospital. You ended your film with a shootout on a kids climbing frame in someone's back garden!!!!! Exactly. Also the hero dressing in the often copyed "Mark Gor look" wasn't exactly original but that doesn't matter in the slightest, (to tell you the truth I've adapted that look a little for my film) The thing that got me was that it looked as if he was wearing woolly gloves!!!! Now they may not have been woolly gloves but there was no reason for them to be there, he's a normal guy on a hot summers day... wearing gloves.

Now there wasn't supposed to be any plot or character development, which is good 'cos there wasn't any. Why on earth that wrestler lookin' bloke went off to get himself killed for some bloke he didn't even knows girlfriend should only be explained in a longer film, yours wasn't a long film we'll make up our own motives for that, it doesn't matter.

Another thing is that no one seemed to have any idea what they were doing, they'd shift their weight from foot to foot uncertainly, they'd pause after they got shot as if unsure wether bullets were actually dangerous or not. The guys in white T-shirts seemed also confused as to what a gun was, preffering to opt for the "run up to opponent brandishing weapon giving him plenty of time to take it off of them" tactic.

There seemed to be very little reason for most of the actions to be done, people run away at random and do seemingly pointless tasks for no real reason. In the opening shootout a man points a gun at a car for no reason a man gets shot only to be stood up completely unharmed in the next shot. Even the music had no idea what was happening, Mission:Impossible music making a guest appearance for some reason.

Woah I've just realised how much I've written sorry about that, didn't mean to go on. What I'd do is re-edit that, it'll improve it twice over. eg. Shootout with 3 cars on a road in the middle of nowhere that could be so cool if you'd wanted. For your next film the main things to do would be to get more coverage, more camera movement, get the actors to put their back into it a bit more. And decide what's happening so seemingly random events don't happen leaving the audience bemused and confused.

Nice muzzleflashes though.

Seeing as this had potential and it wasn't all bad. A low 3.
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very cool. how did you make it look like you jump onto the playset?
*****stars!!
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amateurmoviemaker wrote:

very cool. how did you make it look like you jump onto the playset?
*****stars!!
He used a complex systems of pidgeons with wires attatched to their feet. One wire was attatched to each shoulder, and each wire was attached to about 30 pidgeons. They were kept in cages until the go ahead at which point the cage was opened allowing the actor to rise upwards.

Hope this helps.
Posted: Sun, 2nd Nov 2003, 11:27pm

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he just jumped off the play set backwards and when editing it... he played the movie backwards making the effect as if the guy was jumping really high onto that playset thing.