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The Matrix Rescinded

Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 10:41am

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3 people, Kyro, Dalles and Lundun find themselves in a dangerous situation when their ship operators are missing. They have no way of escaping and now that agents have upgraded with deadly capabilities, doesn't make it any easier for them.
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Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 11:22am

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Very nicely shot. Good use of effects and it had a very nice flow to it. Would love to see a longer version of it as i think you have a good storyline to work with. I like the idea of the characters being trapped in the matrix, trying to find a way out, not knowing who to trust. Look forward to seeing more of it..
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 11:24am

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yeah, same here, but try to compress the filesize this time ok, i mean the proper one will be a mega file size something like 30 MB! ok, like the movie
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 11:26am

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Was the roof leap at the end real? If so, it looked pretty damn dangerous!
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 1:16pm

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GREAT film

has a very professional look to it - (im assuming some of it was just taken from the matrix though? lol)

liked the gymnastics etc

great jump at the end

good job

-MAGIC
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 3:55pm

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Great! Definetly one of the best matrix remakes (not quite a parody) I've ever seen. A couple lighting issues, but sometimes there's not much you can do around it. It's also good to see a couple african american actors, it makes your film stand out more compared to most. Look forward to seeing the end product!
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 4:02pm

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Pros -
#1 Reason why I suport this movie...
NUNCHAKU!! Hell F***ing Yeah!!! Were using nunchaku in our movie too.
2 Costumes were decent.
3 Stunts. That jump at the end was saweet.
4 A matrix movie that was actually decent. Very good. Can't wait to hear the story.

Cons-
Dont use the logos from WB. Or footage from the trailers. If you really want me to i could probably design ur title sequence in ae for some force.

Anywho good job. 4.

EDIT: Forgot to tell you...you need to color correct so that your movie has a greenish depth to it. That will make the world look more virtual.
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 6:30pm

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cowan,
tight maybe someday you will go big, prob not tho cuz your black, cuz growning up in the W C is hard being black and all , but anyways good job good effects
Kevin Conley
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 6:40pm

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I liked it, i really did, and theres nothing more that i like to see then people doing there own stunts, that was quite a jump biggrin but quite dangerous also, i liked the fighting aswell, nice to see some Nunchuku in there havnt seen a lot of nunchuku in movies, very well done
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 6:43pm

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Hey thanks guys for all of the comments and suggestions, Yea i didnt even think about color correcting it with a greenish tint, thats a great idea, and kyeju, that would be sweet if you could design that for me, i'd greatly appreciate it... oh and kevin (connleyman)... remind me to hit u when i get back home haha.
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 6:50pm

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BTW, that jump was real at the end of video haha, my friend is a rel crazy ass
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 7:02pm

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that was great, and i agree the green tint would really give it the matrix feel, and blue if anything's set outside the matrix. Also i think you could possible improve the agent ganging appeareance effect. I loved the alamdv lightning, but you could have some sort of morph like in the film, or line up the actors so that on the other side of the lightning the agent changes, if you see what i mean.

Btw, what was the name of that music used at the end, I heard it in the Japanese reloaded trailer, and loved it.
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 7:23pm

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the song is Ebla by E.S. Posthumus, i wanted to use "I'm not driving anymore" by Rob D, but the instumentals arent out anywhere! ha, but it still worked.
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 7:25pm

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Ben wrote:

that was great, and i agree the green tint would really give it the matrix feel, and blue if anything's set outside the matrix. Also i think you could possible improve the agent ganging appeareance effect. I loved the alamdv lightning, but you could have some sort of morph like in the film, or line up the actors so that on the other side of the lightning the agent changes, if you see what i mean.

Btw, what was the name of that music used at the end, I heard it in the Japanese reloaded trailer, and loved it.
E.s Posthumus - Ebla

Most of their stuff is fantastic.

Anyway I quite enjoyed this. There seems to be quite a lot going on and if the plot develops a little more than this could be going places. As has already been said green tints etc would be nice. Maybe some tighter editing during the action sequences but otherwise pretty nice.

By the way good jump at the end as well.

Cheers,
Fight.
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 7:48pm

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CX3 wrote:

the song is Ebla by E.S. Posthumus, i wanted to use "I'm not driving anymore" by Rob D, but the instumentals arent out anywhere! ha, but it still worked.
I have I'm not driving anymore insturmentals. If u want it PM me and I will email it to you. It was a pretty rare catch at the time.
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 9:44pm

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I gave it a 2. THere was room for improvement, but not overly poor. The editting could have been done closer to the action, there seemed to be moments before scenes where ya'll were standing around. Keep making stuff and submitting it!
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 11:07pm

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Ay, what do u mean by standing around and what not, im just wondering if u watched my movie and not somebody elses haha. Not that im trying to be rude or anything but you gave your video a 5 and the lighting needed alot of work and the editing was very choppy. But thanks for the comments tho.
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 11:17pm

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Dude, you're a fucking dumb ass! People standing around before scenes?? You need to stop sucking dick and pay attention to the movie you're watching, all the people standing around you must've seen were the line of fags waiting to cram it in your mouth, not the movie. I've watched this atleast 20 times, and not seen any of the shit you're talking about, plus your movie was gay as hell anyways, yours was the one with people standing around in the background, I saw atleast three instances of that shit. So fuck off then and learn how to shoot a real fucking video, bitch.

Payce!
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Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 11:22pm

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so yea.. i definately have no relation to the guy that just commented before me if anyone is thinking that i told him to write something, thanks for the comments DMaresh tho.. i think? haha
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2003, 11:25pm

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erm...whats with the language all of a sudden, this guys got an opinon, fair enough...you might not agree with it but that no need to turn the forums into some school yard arguement. If you can't make a valid point without swearing your mouth off, then don't say anything at all..
Posted: Thu, 12th Jun 2003, 12:31pm

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The scene I had in mind when I wrote it was the first stair fighting scene. The fighting for it just seems to move in waves. Fight, pause, fight pause. Just so every know I was just giving constructive criticism. If everyone told you that you were perfect, then you'd never get better at anything. I gave my views of the video, and after watching it two more times, I stand by them. As for my video getting a 5 rating, it was made by a co-worker of mine, who voted after watching it.
Posted: Thu, 12th Jun 2003, 12:52pm

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Thanks for letting me know of E.S. Posthumus guys, I think I'll get their album. And as for all of you wanting to use Rob Dougan in your films, you might like to know that a special version of his album is coming out in just four days which includes a second cd of the instrumental versions of the first, and the music videos for furious angels and clubbed to death (found out from www.robdougan.com). However, if it's copy controlled, like the original version of his album, you're going to have difficulty ripping the cd onto your computer to use it.
Posted: Thu, 12th Jun 2003, 3:09pm

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cool cool, thanks for the info man, im sure i'l find a way to get it on my comp.. wink haha
Posted: Thu, 12th Jun 2003, 3:09pm

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I like the video. I though it was nice. But let me start with the bad first. Some of the lighting was bad, the fight scene with the two guys fighting in the stair was terrible and the other fight scene was marginal.

Like the black twins (kinda like the twins in Reloaded) they added a smooth ominous, menacing touch—nice. I like the last song—what was that song? Nice job on the song selection. Nice effect on the bullet dodging. I also like the slowmo with the guy performing a flip avoiding the sweep. Over all I though it was nice. Looking forward to see your next production.

XcyborgX
Posted: Thu, 12th Jun 2003, 3:14pm

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TPGO, i feel ya, i wasnt tryin to be a d***, i was just saying that your comments didnt make that much since to me, so instead of helping me to get better it just confused me, give me specific instances on what parts of the video werent that great, thats all im askin.

thanks man
Posted: Thu, 12th Jun 2003, 4:26pm

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CX3 wrote:

so instead of helping me to get better it just confused me, give me specific instances on what parts of the video werent that great, thats all im askin.
I'm always confusing. Plus working 36 hours in three days will make me even more confusing. tard

I think the stairway fight just wasn't that great. The sideways cartwheel was sweet though. I think another thing that I didn't like was just the movie copy. I'm not really much for movies that copy other movies. I guess I like original plots, no matter how simple or dumb.

Like I said before, the overall movie wasn't that bad, there were just a few instances that could have made it better.
Posted: Thu, 12th Jun 2003, 5:43pm

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Well I can say that was actually pretty damn impressive. I wasn't expecting much either which made it more the better. The shots and editing were good, not excellent but I'm used to seeing real shoddy editing recently so it made a nice change. Good use of music for once, I'm so tired of this loud heavy stuff that people seem to think aids an action sequence. Acting wasn't embarrasingly awful but wasn't exactly mind blowing either (although their wasn't much of it on show smile )

Fantastic action all flying about and that great stuff. Nice choreography, should be good when it's all together.

Nice sunglasses although the agents jackets should have been proper suit jackets, the bloke could have done with something slicker than a white t-shirt.

My main problem with it is that it's a Matrix spin-off/remake/parody/fanfilm whatever. This should have been 100 times better if if had been something of your own creation, something original. Really thought about something cool you can make similar to "The Matrix" rather than being a low budget version of it.
Posted: Thu, 19th Jun 2003, 1:03am

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Hey, what was that song used in the begining? It's pretty cool!
Posted: Thu, 19th Jun 2003, 9:13pm

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The first song starts with "The Power Plant - Don Davis" its from The Matrix score, Then it goes into "The Wonders of You - Andy Hunter" its an extra from the Reloaded/Revolutions series and then it goes into "Ebla - E.S.Posthumus" from the R/R series.
Posted: Tue, 24th Jun 2003, 1:51pm

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Not a bad trailer. I was a little dissapointed that there wasn't more 'Matrix' type effects. I think it's good you're having a go at creating your own matrix movie. Hopefuly the final movie will implement the things that make the matrix movies so great.
The night shots suffered from the same thing evey other film that has night shots. It looks brown and dull. It's a shame you can lighten up the shot more. I'm looking in to ways of doing this myself. But apart from having portable lighting and a reflector screen, I can't see any other way of doing it.
Anyway. Good luck with the rest of the movie.
Posted: Tue, 24th Jun 2003, 6:31pm

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Thanks Man, yea, i really need to find portable lighting, all of the stuff in the footage was shot on the campus of Ohio State University, some shots turned out great and some i will have to use more lighting, it'll happen ha.
Posted: Tue, 24th Jun 2003, 6:33pm

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haha, that was me ^ ^
Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2003, 1:44pm

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My friends and I are currently planning on making a "Matrix" type movie as well .... I'm the one stuck with the editing as i am the one with the software. I was wondering how you did the agent dodging the bullets ... it looked REALLY good .... is it just a bunch of different shots put on top of eachother .... if so how did u go about doing it ... ne help you could give would be great ... thanks
Rob
Posted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2003, 3:48am

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Thanks for the comments man. All i did was have my friend move like he was dodging bullets for like 20-30 seconds. Then I took it into iMovie.. (i hate that program but im still learning FCP). And when he was going from one postition of dodging a bullet to the next, i would simply split the clip there and put a cross dissolve transition between them. And then it looks like you have 2 of him dodging.

Thats all, Lataz.
Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2003, 9:16pm

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Good trailer that creates emotion through images. The choice of music and locations is impressive and quality and they go well with the editing. I like the end with the explosion and jumping across the roof. That was money.

-AJ
Posted: Wed, 9th Jul 2003, 4:45pm

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pretty nice pretty nice. The music toward the end was EXCELLENT! I liked the way this was edited. You just should have used a few more MATRIX style fx thats all. Good job.
Posted: Sat, 12th Jul 2003, 12:32am

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Being a fellow Matrix-Inspired Filmmaker, I was extremely impressed with the two aspects

1) The part where the Agent dodges the bullets. Seriously cool. Request permission to use the way you composed the shot in a future project of mine. The shot was really killer.

2) The serious, almost professional, attention to detail to create a "Matrixesque" type film. Obviously it is rather difficult to create an actual Matrix Film unless you got a serious budget. But I like the usage of your shots, props, and music to create something that I would expect to see in an actual trailer for a Matrix related film.

Do you plan on adding to this trailer or the movie by adding more matrix effects provided in AlamDV?

I'd give it a 5, but if you plan on improving the trailer or making a more serious film with it...I'll wait until that comes out. smile I'm really studying all the Matrix-Inspired films, so if you plan on doing anymore to it let me know.
Posted: Sun, 13th Jul 2003, 7:24am

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Hey, thanks man for the comments, and i wouldnt mind you using that bullet dodging shot at all. As for future "matrix" projects, I might put out a longer trailer on this site, i guess a final theatrical trailer in which i would use more matrix style effects, ive worked on it some but im also trying to match scenes up with the music. Thats one thing that i noticed with some of the matrix trailers, they would cut scenes on certail parts of the music. Thats what i tried to do on the end of my trailer. But i have to finish some other projects first, as for an actual movie, i wouldnt be able to do that until i go back up to school again. We started getting some basic shots and used them in the trailer, but it was close to the end of the year and then summer came and now everybody that you saw in that video is basically spread out over the state (which sux) ha. Im sure we will come together in a few months and put something out tho. wink

Thanks again man
Chris