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Posted: Sun, 22nd Jun 2003, 9:28pm

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Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2003, 2:58am

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just wondering if there's a set release date yet?
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2003, 3:01am

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Sorry no release date yet. Once there is it will be posted on the community News biggrin
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2003, 12:58pm

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Will ADV3 support Mac OS9 or just 10? If it's just 10 I think tears may flow from my face.
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2003, 12:59pm

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No support for MacOS9, all the new apps are only supported under MacOSX and Windows 2000/XP.

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Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2003, 2:18pm

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You should charge more than £19.99 for the upgrade!

smile I would be willing to pay £24.99 or something!

You guys deserve it biggrin
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2003, 2:20pm

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Might hold you to that, er-no. razz
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2003, 5:34pm

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Will somebody mind explaining this to mean i'm not quite sure what it is and what to expect from.

Thanks

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Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2003, 8:22pm

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First of all, the new website is amazing!
...except I've lost my 80X80 avatar sad

Anyways, what does soon for the alamdv3 release means?
Next week, mid-july, august?

And by the way, at the main page, we can see: "Introducing the new version of the world's most popular special effects website." What is the difference between special and visual effects? Special effects weren't supposed to be all the non-computer generated effects and visual effects, every effects added by computer?
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2003, 10:02pm

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anonymous

So will the new apps be available for windows, or just macOSX?
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2003, 10:03pm

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All of them (except iPlugins) will be avaliable for:

- Windows 2000/XP
- MacOS X (10.1 Or Higher)
Posted: Tue, 24th Jun 2003, 1:47am

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GrimzWizard: From my understanding, which may not be correct, special effects are filmed on camera and visual effects are added in post.
Posted: Tue, 24th Jun 2003, 1:54am

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Special effects can be hundreds of things - sound, cg, live explosions.

Visual effects is just a sub section cutting out the sounds element - it can still be live or post. Technically the right way to describe our application would be computer generated special effects, but we hope this site will have more than just information and tutorials on our products - in the redesigned forum you should be able to talk about lighting, live effects and even sound.

We should have redesigned the forum by the time we switch servers.
Posted: Tue, 24th Jun 2003, 5:57am

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Call me stupid, but whats 19.99 pounds in American dollars?
Posted: Tue, 24th Jun 2003, 5:59am

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19.99 British Pound = 33.34732 US Dollar

You can do other conversions with the currency converter located on this page - http://www.csb-digital.com/alamdv/shop/fxhomeshop.html
Posted: Tue, 24th Jun 2003, 8:17am

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.i have alam dv2 with about 200 plug ins..if i upgrade to dv3 will it have to reinstall all these?.nice new site btw and your product has done alot for us.

http://brightideas.isgreat.tv/
Posted: Tue, 24th Jun 2003, 8:18pm

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will AlamDV 3 work with Mac OS X 10.2 (Jaguar) and/or 10.3 (Panther)?
Posted: Tue, 24th Jun 2003, 10:31pm

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AlamDV3/Chromanator and DigiGrade will all work with 10.2 upwards.

When it comes to Plugins thing look set to change a bit, although we'll try and make the transition as easy and quick as possible.
Posted: Wed, 25th Jun 2003, 1:39pm

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If I buy AlamDV2 now, I get the AlamDV3 upgrade for free right ?
Posted: Wed, 25th Jun 2003, 1:44pm

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Yes - go for it!!!
Posted: Thu, 26th Jun 2003, 4:20am

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well i bought alam dv2 and haven't used it yet. However i am waiting for the dv3, and eventualy i will learn to use them. Life is busy when you go to work and then come home to rest.

Paitenly awaiting the realease to see.
Posted: Thu, 26th Jun 2003, 8:31am

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.i would just like to thank schwar for answering all these questions.
Posted: Thu, 26th Jun 2003, 7:30pm

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AlamDV 3. come on, AlamDV 3< Me wants AlamDV 3
Posted: Sun, 29th Jun 2003, 3:17am

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Hmmmm. On the Q and A board at the offical Star Wars site, they say that special effects are filmed, and visual effects are done after.
http://www.starwars.com/community/askjc/ilm/askjc20001016.html
Posted: Sun, 29th Jun 2003, 4:26am

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Special/Visual effects are both terms which are used interchangeably. I prefer to use the term 'Practical effects' or 'Gags' for effects (Explosions, bullet hits etc) that are done using... well... practical methods. EG: The use of squibs for a bullet hit on a person or the ground.
Posted: Mon, 30th Jun 2003, 5:30pm

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I want to get AlamDV....if I buy AlamDV2 and run it on my old iBook with OS9, then upgrade to AlamDV3, will I be able to install it on my OSX machine? I'm not comfortable using OS9 Classic mode having never done it before.

Can someone post their experiences using it in classic mode?

Thanks,
Edward
Posted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2003, 11:27am

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If you are on the Mac and have an OSX machine I would wait till AlamDV3. Although most of our Mac users seem to be fine a few have had problems that are mainly caused by the poor memory management in OS9 and Director 8.5. This is why the new version will no longer support MacOS9 and only MacOSX.
Posted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2003, 12:21pm

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no win 98 unsure (joe starts swearing) i need it on 98 please!!!!! please please please please please please please please please please please please please What are all us poor 98 users going to do?
Posted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2003, 12:39pm

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Win98 really is very out-of-date now, the new programs might work ok on it but I don't think we will be supporting them.

Window 2000 and XP are so much better so it really is worth upgrading. If you have a machine thats up to running video apps then you really want the extra performance and stability that XP/2000 give you over 98.
Posted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2003, 1:35pm

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well, schwar, i could upgrade 2 xp, but some of my hardware wouldn't work on it... so im staying old... unless...
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2003, 5:36am

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I downloaded AlamDV2 tryout and I was impressed with its capabilities. I'm saving up to buy your product in the near future. Questions: Would it be possible to incorporate a built-in particle generator module in AlamDV3 for effects like pixie dust, rain, customized smoke and similar effects? Back in the animation part where you have the Quad stuff, would you be planning to implement benzier curves to allow rounding of edges and points? It would be a great help in building masks to shapes you really want. Last question: Is animated masks over time like in commotion 4.1
be part of AlamDV3. As a special effects artist for low budget productions, the stuff I mentioned above are some of the things I routinely and painstakingly do manually. Now if things like these were automated somehow... Then I would see your next product to be the one and only outstanding digital effects compositor program.
thanks surprised
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2003, 10:04am

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There won't be a particle engine inside AlamDV3 but there will be many particle plugins. The new masking interface should be a fully tweened bezier shape.
Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2003, 3:59pm

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Whenwhenwhenwhenwhenwhen?????????????? twisted twisted twisted twisted twisted
Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2003, 6:12am

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Hey whats up people, so when is AD3 coming out? any news yet, also can anyone tell me about any other programs that are good for making movies and stuff. Anyone wanna host my movie on here as well?
Posted: Mon, 7th Jul 2003, 3:36pm

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I would take even a fake date just to make me feel like I knew something. I can't wait until I get my hands on the new software...it sounds great. Has anyone been a beta tester on it? I'd love to know what it looks like, and how it is actually different.
Posted: Mon, 7th Jul 2003, 3:42pm

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Check out the Chromanator video preview (search through the old news posts) for a glimpse at a work-in-progress version.
Posted: Wed, 9th Jul 2003, 12:24pm

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Alamdv says coming soon, but it has said this for a while now, does anyone know how soon? Because i want it for the end of the summer. When is the RELEASE DATE???
tard tard tard
Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 2:49am

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Ya... 29th of may is starting to be a little far! razz
Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 11:37am

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PLEAAAAAASE Tell us the release Date!
Posted: Tue, 15th Jul 2003, 1:41pm

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you guys... come on. its an insult to think that i havnt already bugged them so much that they told me something like...:

csb-digital crew wrote:

blah blah blah not going to tell anyone untill we are sure it will be out then. blah blah blah we are like 75% done... blah blah blah malone likes cake. blahblahblah
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yeah...
Posted: Tue, 15th Jul 2003, 1:47pm

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tard hehe
Posted: Tue, 15th Jul 2003, 3:44pm

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You guys! Chill! It will get here when it gets here, and it won't be here until it gets here. So when will it get here? JK, JK... but I am so psyched about the OS X version...
Posted: Tue, 15th Jul 2003, 5:01pm

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ummm... yeah... thats pretty much what i said...
Posted: Mon, 21st Jul 2003, 3:45pm

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Right im sorry, when is the release date of AlamDV3 its driving me nuts!
Posted: Mon, 21st Jul 2003, 3:48pm

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hmmm... i would say that we are about a month from chromanator... so thats about one (or more) months till alamdv3! yay! i wouldnt be suprised of schrwar is almost done with chromanator and he gonna say that its gonna be a month more and then release it! that would be awesome! but thats just wishful thinking biggrin
Posted: Mon, 21st Jul 2003, 5:04pm

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Woooaaahhhh Wooo Whhaaa <-- My lightsaber....after i've created it in AlamDV3 (When it comes out... cough cough (when) I've just got a iMac and I would love to use it's full potential, and what better program to use than AlamDV3? he he =) I know there is AlamDv2 but thats used in Os 9 and i don't like that OS, Os X is a lot nicer. =) I would really LOVE to know when it comes out, and mark, i know what ur going to say "it will come when it comes" (not being dirti there) but I just can't wait!
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Here i am a sixty one year old man and i think i'm just starting to learn to enjoy videos. I remember when I used to use a kodak wind up movie camera. I used to make three minute films with no sound and thought that was neat at the time.
Now with programs like alamdv2 and the soon coming alamdv3, and hollywood fxpro, it just seems unreal that a old man like me can have so much fun and not have to go have film processed.

I think i will have to get some glue remover to get my ass off of my computer chair. My wife says i'm glued to the machine!

Oh well! I can hardly wait for the alamdv3 upgrade, and I won't even have to wind it up!
Larry Landon
Posted: Thu, 24th Jul 2003, 4:04am

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You are officially the coolest sixty one year old guy ever! i wanna be just like you when i grow up! biggrin
Posted: Sat, 26th Jul 2003, 8:01am

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Me too
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Will AlamDV3 be backwards compatible with all of the old plugins from alamdv2?

AJ
Posted: Sun, 27th Jul 2003, 6:59pm

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from what ive heard, they are going to try to get a conversion thingy for us dv2 users ithink.
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*Ryan sits at his iMac trying to find out when this new great program will be released. I would really like to know, and I think its time that the creaters behind the program should at least give us anticipating users a rough idea on when the program will be due for release. I mean everyone wants to know when the program is coming out, just read some of these notes, so pweeeeaaasseee just at least give us a rough rough date.

Remember ? Think different
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actually i beleive the saying is: "think outside the bun" ha biggrin ahhh... i love taco bell with its fake meat and stuff
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Hey Marek, have you got a little confession to tell us all? Its says here that you've posted 368 times on this site! =) thats a record. Well done, I couldn't believe it when I saw it.
Posted: Thu, 31st Jul 2003, 12:05am

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umm yeah.... Marek doesn't have the record dude, there are people with A LOT more posts than that...

1) b4uask30male - 2001

2) moebius - 1722

2) MechaForce - 1582
Posted: Thu, 31st Jul 2003, 12:21am

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I'll catch up with them some day! I should of never left for those months.. surprised
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Do you think you could bring AlamDV3 online before September?
Posted: Sat, 2nd Aug 2003, 12:23pm

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hey, look at me!
355 posts in 7 weeks!
is that a record?
Posted: Sun, 3rd Aug 2003, 8:16pm

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I have to say I am very unhappy with the way the upgrades to AlamDV3 are being done. As one of those that took up ALAMDV2 as soon as it was launched infact preordering it paying full price for it in order to help support future developments of the software I now find that I must pay for an upgrade while others that ordred later dont have to pay...WHY ? this is a totally unfair policy on those that have supported the version two software from the start. It should either be free to ALL version 2 registered owners (as I believe it was stated to be when versio 2 was launched) or all should have to pay the upgrade price. I feel like I've been kicked in the teeth after payingout to help support a small software company and one that it seemed had a very enlightened attitude to upgrades (if I remeber right when I pre ordered ALAMDV2 the web site said all future upgrades would be free to ALL that bought the software regardless of the date bought. Now it seems you gues are going back on this statement. I for one am very very dissapointed about this and probably won't be upgrading as it seems that undertakings on this site are not worth a jot
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jotoki wrote:

It should either be free to ALL version 2 registered owners (as I believe it was stated to be when versio 2 was launched)
It has never been stated that AlamDV3 would be a free upgrade. All upgrades from AlamDV1-2 were free, but AlamDV3 was never going to be free.

The reason we have made it free for people buying after 1st January 2003 is because they had not experienced the many months (years, in some cases) of free support and updates that others had already enjoyed; we felt it was unfair to force people to have to pay for an upgrade when they had only just bought the program, when others had enjoyed free upgrades for a long time. Also remember that we had initially hoped to release these programs earlier, in which case it would have been quite a small window of people that would have been eligible.

jotoki wrote:

I feel like I've been kicked in the teeth after payingout to help support a small software company and one that it seemed had a very enlightened attitude to upgrades
We do try our best. It's always a juggling match between surviving as an ongoing company as trying to give our users a good deal. I'm sorry if you feel we got it wrong this time.

jotoki wrote:

(if I remeber right when I pre ordered ALAMDV2 the web site said all future upgrades would be free to ALL that bought the software regardless of the date bought. Now it seems you gues are going back on this statement.
We never stated that AlamDV3 would be a free upgrade. It was always clearly stated that updates would be free for AlamDV2.xx - ie, any updates to AlamDV2.

AlamDV3 is a brand new program, and I hope everybody will be very pleased and impressed with how much of an advance it is over AlamDV2 - we think that £19.99 as an upgrade price is a very good deal for what is a vastly improved program, and much more than a simple 'upgrade'.

jotoki wrote:

I for one am very very dissapointed about this and probably won't be upgrading as it seems that undertakings on this site are not worth a jot
For the record, to my knowledge it was never stated that anything beyond AlamDV2.xx would be a free upgrade (aside from the more recent post-1st January 2003 free upgrade), nor have we reneged on any promises.

Again, I'm sorry you feel this way. If you want to discuss it further, please feel free to come on the live chat sometime during the week.
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Tarns always there when you need something answered... wink
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Quit complaining. The reason if people buy it this year, that way they don't have to pay more later on in the same year. You paid a long time ago. You're still supporting new developments. It's fair. It's marketing. Get over it.
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lol if it was free for all alamdv2 users than CSB-Digital would hardly make anything off of alamdv3 and would probably cost more labour and work than they made profit. So don't complain think about the real world.

hmm i get it for free though...hehe wink
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Listen to Aculag. This is the way it´s done by all serious softwarehouses, so stop complaining. Afther all, we are getting the AlamDV for a very resonable price anyway. Not to mention the upgrade price.
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Clearly it's not going to be fre to evryone and that was the point I made that everyone should pay. To say it's marketing is fine but marketing should be careful NOT to isolate any group of buyers at the expense of other buyers. Now I would have no problem paying the upgrade price if it was fairly charged to all as you find with most if not all other software packages. Just coz a person chose not to buy the software till this year is not a good reason to give them a free upgrade while charging others. Nothing is free, the technical support provided is all factored into the product pricing in the first place. whats really being said to people is, ok, don't buy this product till we are about to realease the next one, that way you will get if free while those that bought the same product as soon as it came out and so basically kept the company afloat when it was taking a big risk (so it was constantly reiterated on the forums) on a make or break release end up paying for it. Now in the end paying for an upgrade is fine and makes sense, alienating early take up users doesn't. Sure you can't keep everyone happy for sure but you can avaiod directly screwing an part of your current customer base
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Many companies give free upgrades to recent purchasers of the previous version of their software. Our time period is longer than most but this is because our development time has taken longer than expected.
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Maybe if we explained our thought process in this matter it might help.

Firstly we are hugely grateful to all the people who have supported us in the past. We truly believe we have the best userbase for any program around. For this reason we wanted to give the best discount we possibly could on the new programs. So our primary concern was for current users, and we like to think we have given them all a great deal.

Next we knew we would be promoting AlamDV3 before it came out, and it would be hard to sell AlamDV2 when people know they can wait and get the super spiffy AlamDV3 for the same great price instead. We wanted to do pre-orders for AlamDV3 (like we did for AlamDV2 when that was being released), but we didn't have a proper release date and felt it was unfair to make them wait indefinitely. So the solution was to give them AlamDV2 while they wait (you probably remember we did the same last time and gave AlamDV1 away for free to AlamDV2 pre-orderers). Unfortunately trying to explain that process is tricky and can lead to lots of confusion, so instead we simplified it to "Buy AlamDV2 now get AlamDV3 when its released". So at the end of the day its the same deal, just worded better. In essence this is the same deal you got when you pre-ordered AlamDV2.

I hope this makes sense. The last thing we want is anyone feeling like they are getting a bum deal. We try extremely hard to create the best possible software at fair prices (as opposed to the super inflated prices other companies seem to mark their programs at).
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anonymous

Very precise and good explanation. You have my support and sympathy, malone.
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anonymous

Potoki, 20 pounds to upgrade? That is a tiny amount for video software.
Posted: Tue, 12th Aug 2003, 3:45pm

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anonymous

Will the new ALAMDV have the ability to export AUDIO too? For instance, the CLIP you import, add effects to, can you then EXPORT it with audio? Am I missing something?
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From what i have heard, you won't be able to use alamdv3 to add sound, but when u export the clip, it will have any sound that was originally on the clip...

TMM
Posted: Tue, 12th Aug 2003, 5:19pm

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OK, so I am correct that this one does NOT have sound export? (current version) And I SURE HOPE the add a gosh darn "UNDO" option.
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AlamDV3 will keep the sound of your imported clip when you export, and there should be an undo as well smile
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Hey, I know everyone is asking, but I haven't heard an answer yet, so...
Any update on a release date for ALAMDV3 yet?

I'm salivating just thinkling about it!! razz
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Yea... 29th of may is really starting to get far ago...
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Hey! can i get a beta version? tard
Posted: Wed, 20th Aug 2003, 3:30am

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I've never used Mac OS 9 and don't plan to. Can the demo be run in the Classic environment?
Posted: Fri, 22nd Aug 2003, 8:06pm

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Muito bom esse programa!!!!! Curti muito mesmo!!!!!
Estão todos de parabens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very good program........ congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tard
Posted: Sun, 24th Aug 2003, 11:36pm

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How come alamdv3 hasnt come out yet?
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I am sure that alamdv 3 will be out as soon as the guys at csb-digital have finished making it...

Don't forget they need to code it all, do the readme's decide what to add in the installers and all sorts, the longer they spend on it, teh better it will be for everyone...

TMM
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Just out of curiosity, will AlamDV3 be Win98SE compliant? I noted that it's not listed in the specs, yet I'm wondering if there will be a patch of sorts for those of us who prefer the earlier version of Windows.

Anybody have a heads up out there?
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AlamDV System Requirements wrote:

Windows Requirements
Operating System Windows 98/ME/XP/2000
'Nuff Said

TMM
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Sweet!

Thanks~
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AlamDV2 does support Windows 98 but if you look at the AlamDV3 about page it says 2000/XP only. We are unable to test the new software on Windows 98 at the moment but if you are running 98 or ME you should really consider ungrading to a modern OS.
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XP's caused nothing but trouble for me.... I've had to spend days trying to find out how to get 98 progs to work on XP.
Posted: Thu, 28th Aug 2003, 9:41pm

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Hey, I have been thinking about getting Alamdv for a while now, and then I heard they were releasing 3 sometime soon. Can it be run on Windows 98?
Posted: Sat, 30th Aug 2003, 1:58pm

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hey guys when IS AlamDV 3 being released???
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Patience is a virtue my friend biggrin
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Hrm, I'm amazed that people keep asking the same question over and over and get the same response over and over, but still don't learn confused So, for the record; anyone reading this thread looking for an AlamDV release date, CHECK THE MAIN PAGE. If you don't see something on the main page, you won't get a release date by posting here. oink
Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2003, 7:46pm

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anonymous

You guys are taking way too long......
Other companys hire developers to get the job done.
You make good money off this software whats the hold up???

I know your not supposed to rush into development but you have been taking months.

Did you guys go to the North Pole to write the code that you stole from some renegade eskimo?

This is just taking way too long......
I think Ill take my business elsewhere....
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well, arent you a jerk?? I dont mind waiting, u shouldnt mind either. I am prob. the least patient person on earth. and am i complaining??? noooooooooooooooo. how bout u get alamdv 2 and upgrade to 3 for free? its out NOW. tard you are not the kind of person i like to deal with. I am sure i speak for many people. Get out of here if you cant respect the great work these people do. geez


Andrew
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I would PM you with the words coming out my mouth, but you are guest.
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Whatever you say GUEST

Don't be such a pussy. Register.

How about you start developing inexpensive, easy to use programs that functions great... Maybe then you would actaully know what it's like.

...and as for taking your business elsewhere.... I DARE YOU! Just try and find anything remotely similar to AlamDV for under $100... couldn't find It, eh? Thats what I thought. Now just wait and be patient, like the rest of us here, you inconsiderate asshat. mad
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This is post is to our little bud "Guest"

First of all you oviously don't know the skill and time required to develope such programs and by my understanding CSB-Digital is not nearly as large of a company such as Adobe. CSB-Digital has a mimimal amount of developers but with their hard work and skill they are able to devlope a product that is well worth the wait and if all you filmmakers agree we pretty much depend on these products, as we use them in our films all the time. So don't give CSB-Digital crap until you've sat down and thought about what all goes into creating such programs. Keep up the great work CSB-Digital and looking forward to your upcoming products smile
Posted: Thu, 11th Sep 2003, 2:33am

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Patience brings perfection.
We will all wait...everybody can wait.......its all fine!!!!!!
Keep up with the work!!!!!!!!!
Good job!
Posted: Mon, 15th Sep 2003, 3:49pm

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I just want to say something about that ass-munch who was making fun of CSB-Digital and saying they had to steal their code from some Renegade eskimo. Here's what I got to say about that. If you weren't some renegade eskimo sitting in your igloo picking your nose surfing the net, you would actually be able to go out in the real world and see just how easy it is to take your business elsewhere and find a program like this from someone like Adobe for under a hundred bucks. Plus you must also find a program that is so easy to understand and run even a 3 year old could operate it. Plus it has to give your movie the "Hollywood" look with breathtaking special effects. The folks at CSB-Digital are brilliant. BRILLIANT! Keep up the good works guys. And if that guest freak wants to tell you differently, he can talk to me! Really. Talk to me you rude guest guy. hot_green_eyed_actor@yahoo.com. Come on you renegade eskimo. Let's go. I'll argue wicha. Bring it. Take care Alam DV Users. Keep up the stunning work CSB-Digital.
Posted: Mon, 15th Sep 2003, 7:02pm

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anonymous

I agree with some of you. It's taking much too long.

I understand that it takes a lot of work to get everything working fine, but please, get that "coming soon" of your site. It is very frustrating to read that it's coming soon without a soon release !

I'm waiting for more than one year now (!!) for an OS X version of Alam and ever since it was promesed to be there soon.

Just tell your customers that you can' manage to make things work like the way want them to work.

I still hope that Alam 3 is "coming soon"
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Uhm, one thing:
They really don't have to realese AlamDV3 at all, it's theire work, time etc. When they will realese it, than many people will buy it, so CBS will earn $ and probably make AlamDV4, for which we will wait again, and so on(yap! that's a Great Circle of Live hugegrin ).
AlamDV3 will be realesed, when THEY will decide to do so, and that's best way.
Even though, I must admit that 'Coming Soon' is quite annoying, when I wait for such a great software, not to mention waiting itself, but still, it's like Christmas, waiting soooo loooonnng hugegrin , and 100% it'll be worth this time.
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Trust me, it annoys us as much as it does you that the programs are not yet available. smile

All I can do is apologise for the waiting - we're all working our socks off as fast as we can. I just hope you like the results of our efforts when the time comes!

Thanks again for all your patience.
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Don't work too hard, we want You ALIVE biggrin
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Tarn wrote:

...we're all working our socks off...
Is it not easier to take them off normally?
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Not if you have your shoes on biggrin
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Hey guys,

We are really sorry for the delays that we have had, there are many reasons for these but the main one has to be that we are such a small team. I know some people out there think we should be able to throw some money at it, hire some people and get it done. This might work in other cases, but as we have very few available funds it is not at all possible.

The CSB-Digital core team is only 4 people, with only 3 of them being programmers and only 2 of those on the program applications full time. We are a very small company but we hope our next applications will make a huge difference and get some serious distribution around the world - we need to make this jump so we can afford more people for future programs and the increased support FXhome.com requires.

Bringing out anything other than our best work could have terrible results for CSB-Digital. In the past we have had the luxury of just 2 employees and very few monthly costs. This is not the case anymore, over the past 2 years AlamDV.com and now FXhome.com have become expensive and time consuming to run and we now need to release some programs that will secure our future and your investment in our software.

Beta testing on Chromanator starts this week. Beta testing for AlamDV3 will start next month. We are nearly there.
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.i say take your time..i am totally happy with alam dv2 and am sure alot of others who use it are also, and we appreciate all the hard work you guys do.you guys ROCK..keep it up.
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Nice to say that everybody is happy with alamDV 2, but i cant wait for alamdv 3. I also have the full version of alamdv 1 too. I still use it. Nice work indeed for the alamdv company. oh and one more thing... Keep it up! (the hard work i mean)
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for you bunch of annoying guests....u CAN get alamdv2 and then upgrade to 3 for free. Why dont u just do that? tard
Posted: Fri, 19th Sep 2003, 11:12am

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Heres a thing - alamdv3 will need the plugins, there may be many added at alamdv3's realese, but then again there may not be. I suggest you go plan a semi-good movie (not something crappy) make it a reasonable length, have a good storyline and y the time you finish (if you've done it right) it should be done.

Also, alamdv2 still has 985 plugins, and it works great. Just use that.

Man, I hate people like them.
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I want the program so bad I can hardly stand it, as I have some effects for my feature which I am waiting to complete until Alam3 is here ebcase I know how great it will be. Alam2 is wonderful too (hence why I'm here), but I want 3 badly. However, we need to understandd that we're getting the greatest deal in the history of FX. That is not hyperbole. The amount of things you can do with Alam for an affordable amount of money far exceeds what most novices could do with a program that costs literally ten times as much. I thank the heavens for the crazy SOB's at FXHome, they have made my low-budget features open up to my imagination, knowing there is a way I can add some magic to my creative endeavors that simply would not have been possible otherwise. So chill, let them get it right, and use Alam2 until then.
Posted: Thu, 25th Sep 2003, 10:28pm

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Hi

I kinda need to know if you are planning to support the G5 and Panther for my Mac...

If you don't have Panther to test it, on I can send one for you, then you can send me a demo of Alam DV 3 so I can test it on my G5...

Yeah I know what it sounds like, but honest, I just want to help and see the software run on my MacOS X...

Thanks...
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MacOSX is supported and Panther is just an evolution of 10.2 so it should be 100% fine.
Posted: Wed, 1st Oct 2003, 10:52pm

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Hi

Thanks for the answer, I do however need to know if your AlamDV 3 will work on my G5. At this point my Virtual Pc does not work, not even their new ones...

It has something to do with the processor of a G5...

Thanks
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Erm, why would you run it under virtual PC? There has always been a Mac version of AlamDV and with AlamDV3 it will be OSX Native rather than OS9 Classic.
Posted: Fri, 3rd Oct 2003, 5:24pm

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Hi

I didn't use AlamDV 2 on virtual PC, but that is one of the software I used to use that I cannot anymore on my G5. So I wondered if there was a problem with the G5 processor or that might be a conflict with AlamDV3.

But I don't have OS 9 installed on my G5 anymore so I need to run it on OS X.

I ran the Alam DV 2 on OS 9 and it was slooooooow... Even-though I had 1 GB of RAM and it was Jaguar, also an 800mhz G4... So with this new G5 and panther I hope to really get to work on my movie...

So yeah I am excited!!!

Thanks for putting out such a great software and allowing a little ILM making in our own homes...
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I don't know if this is in the plans for AlamDV3 or not, but while going through the download of all these plug-ins. Do you think for the AlamDV3 Development program, you could create a drop-down menu area that would allow the developer to assign a certain directory for the file to be downloaded into after the package is open?

Also not sure if plug-ins can be handled differently, but a self-extracting plug-in based off of pre-assigned directory would save those downloading plug-ins a lot of time.

The best category scheme would be something like what you already have in place on the website for plug-ins.

Cheers!
LJR
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"Beta testing on Chromanator starts this week. Beta testing for AlamDV3 will start next month. We are nearly there."

Are you on track with the BETA testings for ALAMDV3????

Once it goes BETA, when will it hit FINAL GM? A month two Months? Will we at all get Alam DV3 THIS YEAR?

I wish you guys the very best and hope you will get your dreams come true...

I for one was sold on your Idea of what Alam DV could do, but I have not made anything with it yet as it could not run on MacOS X and having it on OS9 was a pain. But I did buy it anyway, and I waited and waited and am still waiting for the one I can use for MacOSX. But I know it will be worth the wait, but I fear it will not be this year. But I will then have had the software for a year and not be able to use it... So I hope you understand my side as well.

I do understand yours, but any date would do, cause one of the first ones I got was MAY!!! And I held out for May. But since that time there has been nothing. For me it is a lot easier to have a date to look forward to. It is also easier to but a new date to look forward to, instead of the waiting and not knowing how far the software has come at all..

When I first got the mail you were making AlamDV3, there was no talk about the rest of the new products. While I am sure they are good, I think you should have concentrated on on main product cause at this point it kind of feels like Alam DV3 was abandoned in favor for some of the other software. And as you say you are very few. Trust me, we would have been just as happy about your announcement after AlamDV3 about the other products, perhaps more, cause we could see how all of this will work together, once all of them are finished. However, had AlamDV3 been finished in time, and more concentration, it would have had enough time to report bugs and problems back to you and fix them + mach what ever incompatibilities that might pop up.

Now it will be a sea of people reporting back bugs and problems, on all your new products, however much you guys want it to be perfect, it is never known just how it will react in the heat of the action. I hope you will not drown in all the people asking all kinds of questions regarding your new products. I hope you will still be able to give us the good service you have provided over the past years. I know as I too am a programmer, I see people go from nothing to superstars. But die cause it happened too fast, all because they could not handle the amount of people who bought their products. I am not saying you will to, cause I am on your side and I hope the best for you, but from the sound of it, you people are very few, once your products hit the market, people will buy it. Also it is much easier for me to buy all your products and require support on all of them. Sitting and waiting till you can figure it out for me. But that is what I hope you guys can fix some how, so far you have had a hand full of products and it was ok, but even that keeps you off track for the moment.

Please tell me you have everything covered and that I will not loose the most anticipated software since Panther MacOS X...
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Will AlamDV3 be more forgiving loading video? I've installed the Matrox codec, for example, and I still need to export video to uncompressed before it will load in AlamDV3. This means I can only do effects sequences less than 90 seconds...

Also, will AlamDV3 render without having to be the top-most application?
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Movie input and output have been totally rewritten from scratch, and have much better support for various codecs.

The new rendering system is also much faster, and no, you won't have to have the app in the foreground whilst it renders.
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Again, apologies from all of us for this long wait. We're going as fast as we can! It's taken longer than we anticipated, but the programs as a result are also a lot better than we had ever hoped.

Thanks for all your continued patience, and try not to get annoyed at people who ask for release dates as they are perfectly justified to do so - it's encouraging that people are still excited about the impending programs.

The moment there is any news on a release date it will be all over the community news page. You won't be able to miss it. smile
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Ok I just wanna give you some suggestions.

There are a few things I noticed in the demo of AlamDV2 that bug me:

The Masking System. What would be fun would be that instead of having squares and circles and triangles to mask, you could have a AE-like masking system, so you can put as many points as you want. That would make it A LOT easier.

Lightsabers. I noticed that, unlike AE lightsabers, the ends of Alamdv lightsabers are either flat or too pointed. What you should do is, you have a core, then EVERYTHING around it is shiny, and to corrects the flat/pointy problem, you make it so you can put as many points as you like (as long as you connect it in the end). This way, tou can make it really mask the shape of the original lightsaber.

Tell me what you think. And keep up the great work!
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pooky wrote:

The Masking System. What would be fun would be that instead of having squares and circles and triangles to mask, you could have a AE-like masking system, so you can put as many points as you want. That would make it A LOT easier.

Lightsabers. I noticed that, unlike AE lightsabers....
Yes, but AlamDV is AlamDV - NOT AE.

But other than that I hear it has new masking features similar (don't quote me on this) and its the plugins that have the problems, someone should just remake them.

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Pooky - ah, you're talking about the AlamDV2 demo here...

What you need is AlamDV3. smile
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Ehehe, you just made me 5 times more anxious hugegrin
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hey,
Is it possible to buy Alamdv3 and get the magic code off it so I can use alamdv2, while I wait to Alamdv3 to come out. I don't have enough money for both alamdv2 and alamdv3 seeing I'm still only a student. I'm making a movie for School and its due in 5 weeks an I realy need alamdv's effects. I'll even post the movie on this site after I finish! Please help me! (rangarok_mx@hotmail.com or post it on this site Plz). wink thx!


(oh yeah, and it would be good if you could change the transparency on effects in Alamdv3)

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If you buy AlamDV2 now, you get a free upgrade to AlamDV3. Nifty eh? wink
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Hey, really thx man! biggrin
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Hey, Will alamdv3 have the same basic work interface as alamdv2? It took me forever to get the first two, and I dont want to have to start over again. Thanks guys

<PEACE OUT>
Posted: Tue, 28th Oct 2003, 2:28am

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hey again,
iv'e got another problem. Is there any other way to buy it without using a credit card? Please help again thx. biggrin
Posted: Tue, 28th Oct 2003, 6:35am

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You can also pay by check (mail order).

http://www.csb-digital.com/alamdv/shop/fxhomeshop.html

Go there and read about it on the left hand side.
Posted: Tue, 28th Oct 2003, 4:55pm

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I don't think we will see AlamDV 3 this year... Sad really, I have given up now... No point in waiting anymore...

We can soon celebrate their 1 year announcement of AlamDV3... And before we know it we can celebrate the 1 year, since the first release date in May...

With panther and the G5 out for the MacOS X, I think it will take them even longer to release AlamDV3... It's a whole new ball game... Unless it is not optimized for the G5. Which it probably only will be in AlamDV4, 2006...

Sorry my patience ran out, better to forget and to even invest in it anymore...

Good thing I never bought AlamDV2... I'd feel cheated...

Sorry...
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If you bought alamdv2 you could have been using it all this time. And which would make you feel more cheated, Alam3 getting delayed so it can be finished properly or a rushed version which didn't work properly?
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Panther isn't a new OS, its just an update to OSX so we are not talking a new ball game. As for the G5, the applications will run fine on it, and faster than they would on a G4 system.
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it always amuses me when these rather pathetic people choose to post anonymously, saying - basically - that the developers aren't working quick enough.

Whats more amusing is that by being so deliberately sniping and inflamatory, they actually think the developers will give a monkeys! OOOooooh no! not ...*gasp*.....a faceless person too cowardly to write their own name saying to give up! OMG?!?!11?1? b0w d0wn b4 th4 m4st3r 0f r3l34s3 dat3s!

It doesn't take a strategic genius to realise that since alamdv's following is ever growing, one impatient semi-socially retarded person writing self-obsessive rants about the lack of alamdv3 release, is not going to make one iota of difference.
In fact i'd bet a large amount of money that the developers actually point and laugh at these bemuzingly ignorant posts such as Guest's.

Its a freakin company, for crying out loud! They have priorities, they have schedules. They, like every other company, work for themselves; not you, you imbecile. Of course the software has to be released, of course they have to make money, of course the public are important, but there are 2 other products coming out in a very short time which are way more important right now, with regards getting together a fullly featured studio of applications.

Also, judging by your over-use of "...." i'd hazard a guess that you aren't particularly well educated yet, and haven't fully mastered punctuation - a reasonably good sign that you'd probably have to beg your mummy to buy the program; then excel in making abysmal use of it.

Congratulations, you are completely insignificant!!

Now go deal with it.
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I have to admit, I too am getting a little frustrated in waiting for DV3 to be released, however, since I am not currently working on a project which requires all of the great new features I've been hearing about, I don't mind waiting. On the same token, I'd still love to have it just so I can play with it!

People need to calm down. This company obviously isn't Microsoft (a company who's notorious for rushing a product to market before it's truly viable). Would you rather have a functional product with minimal bugs, or a bug-ridden script that you have to download patches for every few days?

That being said, I now have a question: I purchased my AlamDV2 during the "free upgrade" time period, and I'm sure this is a stupid question, but how will we be able to prove that we qualify for the upgrade. Because I can say that once this product does become available, if I don't get my copy, I will be rather upset.

PLEASE!!- Keep up the great work, and for those rud folk who just can't wait; There's plenty of other software titles available right now, if you want to spend 4 to 10 times as much, so SHUT UP, and remember 'Patience Is A Virtue.'
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vanguardvideopro wrote:

but how will we be able to prove that we qualify for the upgrade
We have a record of everyone who has purchased the program. So we will probably email the upgrade details to everyone when the product is released. We will also provide a way for people to get their details if their email address has changed, to make sure nobody misses out
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We are really sorry at CSB for the delays but as we are such a small team (only 4 of us) with such a small income we really have no options other than to create the best software we can.

If we make something that isn't up to scratch we can kiss our future and the future of FXhome.com good bye. We really are working as quickly as possible, but we won't release the new software before we are happy with it. Thanks for sticking with us.
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I too am in the camp of "disappointed", but am not anonymous. I have logged in 4-5 times, but everytime I hit the reply button it tells me I am not logged in and will be shown as guest! Who knows what will appear next to my name!?

Anyway,I suppose what I am hoping for is that the CSB-Digital team have learnt a lesson about all this (in fact, the way I see it is there are quite a few...)

1. If there is a team of only four, why develop four products at the same time? Yeh, everyone might have a different role within the team, but if only one is working on AlamDV 3, then lets face it, that isn't a team of four, thats a team of one.

2. Companies that have a limited income must increase that income, or else the company could fold. Yes, Software is often released with the need for upgrades, but at least people have a working tool, even if some features "are coming". It's the old "..lets release this to keep people interested..." ploy, and thus keep the revenue coming in. Traditionally it has worked, as people like me would certainly take a product that can be built on rather than nothing. (Do I have nothing? No I have AlamDV2. But although I am not exactly MTV generation, I do like new toys!!)... for refernece, just look at..oh, say...a small company called Microsoft. That strategy doesn't seem to have harmed them does it?

3. In future, as tempting as it may be, or even to try and keep new custom, do not mention new products until you are MUCH more definate of a release date. I believe that quite a few people have got fed up of waiting for "...the perfect product...", and found different ways of spending their money. Should CSB be concerned. Damn right!. The posts about CSB not caring about their customers, I believe, is simply not true, as EVERY lost customer is a) lost revenue and b) bad publicity when they talk to their friends etc, thus causing further lost potential revenue.

I think that will do from me. Thus, the advantage of the World Wide Web, where all can post their views. You may have read this and want to have a pop at me like some of the other negative posts, but I like to think mine has been done with thought, and above all, respectfully.

Will my post suddenly make CSB say "hey, this guys right, lets release it tonight!!" No, of course not. CSB will stick to their guns of releasing when they are ready, but at least they allow me to have my '2 cents' worth of ramble, and for that I am grateful.

Ultimately, will I keep waiting? Yes. Will I buy their products? Yes. Will I travel up from Essex to the CSB Digital HQ to personally complain at their doorstep if they don't release it before Christmas? No (Hey, I'm not a total psycho you know!!)

Kevin McPoland
Posted: Wed, 29th Oct 2003, 7:02pm

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A well-rounded post. Thanks.

Just to fill you in tho. The reason 4 products are released at once, is because if one product doesn't produce the projected income, there are 3 others to fall back on for the same fiscal period. At least thats the theory.

The csb team is also not working on a 1-product-per-employee basis, as the rolls are diverse.

On the contrary i'd say microsoft's policies of infinite bug-fixing have cost them. In recent events certainly, the RSA exploits have been a clear indicator of a collosal hole in their software. It compromised literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions of computer systems.

Although a buggy graphic FX application is unlikely to compromise systems world-wide, it is no more desirable to release it before its ready.

Even if you aren't up to speed with microsoft's business antics, on the gaming front Sierra's "Tribes 2" faced exactly this constant-upgrade idiocy. The game was so unplayably bad on the launch date, that tens upon tens of upgrades were released over the coming months. Thousands of people stopped playing because it was becoming such a nightmare.

The potential business implications are, admittedly, a two-sided coin. But the pitfalls of the "trickle" product release should not be underestimated.

Regarding the announcement of products, again, i can alude to the gaming industry, where HalfLife 2 was announced 3 months after halflife 1 was released. However its now 5 years later and we're still chomping at the bit.

Somehow, the imminent release of Chromanator, and the future release of DigiGrade have completely bypassed people complaining about alamdv3's release date. To continue in the Halflife analogy.....valve/sierra maintained interest over the intervening 5 years by releasing hit game after hit game. Similarly csb are releasing two new amazing products in the future, to create a truely competitive 3-pronged film package. Alamdv3 is obviously in the pipeline, but no more so than any new package with which a software company deliberately teases the public.

The market for a cheap-but-powerful FX program has now been filled. The equally lucrative/empty markets for chroma key and colour grading apps are currently the focal point of CSB's production. I'm afraid i can see no flaw in this business logic. Alamdv2 has proved itself. Alamdv3 can, and ought to be waited for.

Software manufacturers get this kind of cajoling/semi-insulting/urging/blackmailing/double-bluffing technique constantly, and to a greater or lesser extent - based on the size of the company - its just something that has to be put up with by client and staff alike.

With 2 new products due for release soonish, their income will eclipse that which is lost from people whining about the release of Alamdv 3. Its simply one of those calculated risk things that businesses have to make every now and agai, and frankly based on my experiences of Chromo' and Digi's abilities - i don't think its much of a risk at all.
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Kevin makes some valid points which I can't really argue with. We are very much learning as we go along. We are a group of film makers (not a faceless leeching company) so we do see it from the communities point of view. We have made mistakes with giving out release dates that we haven't met, and we are trying extremely hard not to repeat this in the future.

The problem is that the whole team is genuinely excited about these projects, and we have been keen to share this excitement with our fellow film makers. And I think we can admit to being over zealous on this front. From a company point of view this may not have been the best idea, as people feel we are teasing them with it.

Every potential member is important to us as a company, and also on a personal level because we want people to enjoy what we create. We do try to shrug off the negative comments, but to say they don't effect us at all is a lie. We know everybody wants it released asap, but I don't think other people realise we want to give it to you just as much. If there was any way we could release it faster we would do it, but we will not sacrifice quality. At the end of the day we have to do what we think is right at the time, and try to please the largest percentage of people we can (although we realise this can never be 100%).

We are not releasing all the products simultaneously, although they will be released in comparatively quick succession. The reason we can do this is because we have designed a core engine that will be used in all the programs. This engine allows us to build powerful apps on top of it fairly quickly. So we have only been working on one thing at a time, but it benefits all the programs.

Once again I apologise for the delays and hope we will redeem ourselves in the end.



On a side note; Kevin, I think your login problem is probably caused by your browser blocking cookies from our site
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I confess to not being in the know too much about the Games/Business Industry, so bow down to your insight. You've given me a look into area's I hadn't even considered.

I suppose my points are more to home for this product and company though rather than the games industry, as I would guess that there are a lot more Half Life Gameplayers in the world than AlamDV users. This has the effect that many of us probably feel 'closer' to the product than it just being a game by faceless programmers. I have used Alam from V1 (when it was given away with Computer Arts of course), and feel a part of it, having watched it grow with a quiet passion for how it can make me look good.

You obviously also have an advantage of seeing the products to be released, and I envy you that. Perhaps if I were in that same shoes I would feel the same, and be absolutely content to just sit and wait. However I do still believe that a compromise must be made between excellence and availability for a company to be succesful.

Thanks again Xcession, your points were well made.

Kevin McPoland
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Malone,

Your post went up whilst I was typing, and we both agree about the "not being faceless" bit! Thanks too for your reply, and as stated, rest assured I will be buying the products as released (probably even if I don't need them!!!)

That's loyalty for you!

Cheers People,

Kevin McPoland
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There's a saying in production that goes "Fast. Cheap. Good. Now pick 2 of the 3." We want it cheap, and we want it good, so we have to give up fast. It's that simple.
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Lots of good points made in the last few posts. We are so sorry the applications are late but I would like to make a few points.

As Malone said, we are not making 3 programs, we are really making 1 main program - this is why Chromanator is so important. Sure the new programs all perform very different tasks, but the base code that controls the video, the interface and all the bits inbetween is the same.

Our team of 4 is split in to 2 application programmers (myself and Timbuk2), 1 website programmer/designer (Malone) and 1 manual/admin/writer/tester (Tarn). We all try to help each other out so our jobs do cross over a lot and we are all working towards Chromanator.

The reasons for delays are quite simple, we have never done anything like this before, and it is totally my fault that bad dates have been given. I lead application programming at the moment but I also have to try and run much of the business, something I find very hard and I am learning as I go along. It is Malone and the rest of the team that has made the impossible possible, but it can't be helped that there is just too much work to go around. Currently there is no option to employ more people as the money simply isn't there and neither is the time to train them.

AlamDV1 and 2 have been a learning process. They have showed there is a market for what we are doing, and that people are interested. They have also proved that quick fixes and stop gaps are not going to cut it if we want to make it big in the future. If AlamDV2 had supported DirectShow it would have probably sold 4-6 times as many copies because about 9 out of 10 people that download the demo can't import there footage straight away. Only a small percentage of people then take time to read on the site how you can work around this, something they shouldn't have to do in the first place. At the same time we must stress that we are thankful for all the support people have given us while making AlamDV1 and 2, we have made many good friends and created an amazing community.

But things do have to change, as a company we now have the skills we never had 2 years ago when AlamDV2 was developed. The quality of our designs has increased as has the size of this community. It is no longer good enough to make low priced but incompatible/limited software - we need to make something we are confident in, that we can distribute and premote to a worldwide audience. AlamDV2 may make effects cheap but, compared with After Effects, thats about all it has going for it. So we set ourselves a target -> The new programs will be cheap but perform tasks at the same quality as professional application while being easier to use.

The new applications really need to make a name for FXhome. We don't want to kill the big boys, but in the areas that we are moving in to we want to be the best, not just the cheapest. Half measures won't do this time, we need to show what we can do. The wait is nearly over for Chromanator, and AlamDV3 will follow shortly after.

Again we are sorry, we are working as fast as we can. We have taken note, and we won't make the same mistakes in the future.
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WHO THE HELL USED MY USER ID AND ACCOUNT INFO TO POST!!!!!

IF I FIND YOU I SWEAR I WILL BREAK YOUR FACE!!!

TYSON, IF I FIND OUT IT WAS YOU, YOU ARE A DEAD MAN!



Sorry to who ever this post was made out to, it was not me... Don't know who it is, but I will find out soon...

I use a computer at school, must have forgotten to log out.

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ARRGG!


If you want the program, bet AlamDV 2 now! IT HAS A FREE UPGRADE TO ALAMDV3!!!!!!!

SO ITS LIKE GETTING THE PROGRAM EARLY..sorta..


Just a little"thought"
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Take your time guys!!! As bad as we all want these programs, we also want it done right. I know it will be worth the wait! Besides, they are in beta testing, so it shouldn't be that much longer for Chromanator. Also if you haven't bought AlamDV 2 yet, get it, you'll get the free upgrade to version 3 and its totally worth it.

Peace Out,

Paul cool
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In order to make your program better, I bet you've listened what we, the users, have to say. It came to me that it would be great if you had more options for the plugin download section. For example, you could release a zip file with what the gold users consider the best plugins for each category. I've had it with browsing for hours and waiting for individual downloads. Please, group them up!
Thanx!
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neus332 wrote:

In order to make your program better, I bet you've listened what we, the users, have to say. It came to me that it would be great if you had more options for the plugin download section. For example, you could release a zip file with what the gold users consider the best plugins for each category. I've had it with browsing for hours and waiting for individual downloads. Please, group them up!
Thanx!
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that is actually a really good idea.
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We are planning on putting all the plugins on the ftp server. This will make it very easy to download certain sets of plugins (just select all the ones you want in the list and hit download). We will probably also group related plugins into directories so people can grab the set just by copying the dir.

Unfortunatly I have yet to find a ftp server that has all the features we require, so Im currently looking into customizing an open source one.
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We hope to make a plugins manager for all the new programs which should make it easier to download and install plugins as well smile
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Will AlamDV 2 Plugins work in AlamDV 3?
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Will AlamDV3 use Mpeg2?
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I think Dr Dragon has a valid point, Will the new version support other formats than the AVI.

For people with smaller machines the ability to play with divx or mpeg2 compressed files is probably a bonus..


On a similar note, does anyone know of a good analogue vid capture hardware device which can import and convert to digital on the fly.?

Thanks
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I don't want to sound like a prude, but...

I wouldn't elect to edit in MPEG2 because the compression is so much greater than netive DV or AVI. Besides, everyone who I know, who's serious enough to desire ALAM is using a computer that is plenty beefy enough to deal with AVI files. Even "off-the-shel" computers built within the last two years should have no problem with AVIs, aside from maybe needing a larger hard drive.

But, hey, I'm not the programmer.

Not to contridict myself, but, I guess the more flexibility ALAM can offer, the better it ultimately be. So long as it doesn't postpone the release date, or cause buggy operation.

Still can't wait to get ver. 3.
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I'm the newbie here so I've undoubtedly brought some misconceptions with me.
I thought that AVI was only used for small internet movies and if I wanted to make something to put to DVD for the wide screen HDTV in my home I would use Mpeg. So now that I've shown my ignorance I would ask what are most of you are doing with your films. Not only am I editing 20+ years of family video tapes but I'm getting my younger children interested in film production. This is great software from what I've seen and my kids are very interested and excited as to what they can create with it. I put together a strong hardware system so that's not a bottleneck, but does needing it to be on DVD make a difference?
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AVI is only a wrapper (like quicktime.) MPEG2 is called a "Finishing format" (i.e. you do all your work in an editing format, like DV or uncompressed, apply your visual and sound FX, THEN make an MPEG2 for DVD.) Another "finishing format" would be MPEG4, and the various MS WMV/WMA codecs.

Also the cost of AlamDV would go up if it decoded MPEG2 files (about $20 US) due to licensing issues .Mpeg4 would cost even more.

As for computer hardware: How much do you have to spend? Are you comfortable working on your own Pc? Do you like Macs? What hardware do you already have (like you might have a couple of spare hard drives, and maybe some ram...so on and so forth.) I suggest you start another topic in (I think ) the general forum, so as not to get this message/post off-topic.
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MPEG2 and Divx are generally not used for editing as they suffer for artifacts on multiple compression much more than a good DV codec. When released all the new applications will support loads of editing formats (many more than AlamDV2) and I'm sure we'll continue to add new formats as the programs evolve.
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That helps me understand a little more. Perhaps AVI finnishing format is better but to play on my home DVD player it needs to be Mpeg2 right?
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to use alamdv do u have to export your video to a media format when ure done or do u do it as u go along
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I know you guys hate being asked, but...
Any word on a release date for Ver. 3 yet?
Late 2003 is all but upon us, and I was just wondering if Santa would be bringing us all a much anticipated gift.

No preassure, just wondering.

Really, no preassure.
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We don't hate being asked at all, we just hate not being able to give you guys an answer. Everything is running so tight here at CSB that we will not be able to really give a release date until about a week before the release so hold tight smile
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Anonymous wrote:

That helps me understand a little more. Perhaps AVI finnishing format is better but to play on my home DVD player it needs to be Mpeg2 right?
Yes, the official DVD format uses MPEG-2 video. But it is still probably best to edit your movie in a nother format, then convert t to MPEG-2 after it is finished.
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to hype everone even more, can we get some screen shots running? just wondering. im excited for thsi-
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I don't know if someone have asked this before, but HOW will AlamDV3 be better than AlamDV2? I mean, will it look better?
Posted: Tue, 18th Nov 2003, 7:26pm

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Redhawksrymmer wrote:

I don't know if someone have asked this before, but HOW will AlamDV3 be better than AlamDV2? I mean, will it look better?
Well, look at the features you have now and compare -

AlamDV3 Feature List:

Easy And Intuitive User Interface
- 100% Re-written For Speed And Control
- Powerful Media Manager
- Freehand masks
- Drag-and-drop Timeline Interface
- Apply 30 Layers Of Effects For Complex Sequences

Professional Level Animation System
- Over 1000 Times Faster
- Keyframe Based "Tweening" System
- Smoothed Animation
- More Control Over Your Effects
- New Improved Timeline Interface

Grading And Colour Tools To Aid Composition
- Colour Tools Derived From DigiGrade
- Enhanced Layer Control

Render Engine
- OpenGL Based Render Engine
- Retains Sound
- Field Accurate Rendering For Broadcast Quality

New Media Support
- Microsoft DirectShow Support (including Microsoft DV)
- QuickTime 6 Support
- Image Stream Support
- Enhanced Image Support
System Support
- Windows 2000/XP
- MacOS X (10.1 Or Higher)

Over 150 Unique Effects Plugins
- Enhanced Plugins
- Simple Plugin Creation
Hundreds Of Stock Footage Effects
- Online database of stock footage effects
Posted: Sun, 23rd Nov 2003, 11:50am

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Hi guys!

I wanted to ask if there is an german translation for AlamDV3 needed.
If yes, I would like to do it. smile
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Hi, that would be very nice, so the german guys could handle it easier!
By the way, is there any possibility to get AlamDV3 in Germany.
Maybe without paying via credit card? (Do not have one)

Greets

McL
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You can send us a cheque, see the shop page for more details.
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 10:43pm

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cant wait to update! I need that new masking tool!
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 11:24pm

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are the alamdv specail effect quality going to be any better. i hope biggrin
Posted: Mon, 1st Dec 2003, 6:15pm

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Is alamdv3 going to support Microsoft Codec? I cant figure out how to install other codecs on my computer, and i only have Microsoft Codec.
Posted: Mon, 1st Dec 2003, 6:44pm

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Cool, it's late 2003.
Does it still look like ALAMDV 3 will be released by this year?
Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2003, 9:24pm

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It wasn't difficult to answer some of those quesitons...

!! READ !! http://fxhome.com/alamdv3/alamdv3.html !! READ!!

As for the release date, we'll just have to hope CSB meet the Deadline, I'm not entirely sure but I think they allready ran past it.
But i'm not complaining, I'd rather have a better programme released in 2004 than a poorer programme released in late 2003.

Easy And Intuitive User Interface
- 100% Re-written For Speed And Control
- Powerful Media Manager
- Freehand masks
- Drag-and-drop Timeline Interface
- Apply 30 Layers Of Effects For Complex Sequences

Professional Level Animation System
- Over 1000 Times Faster
- Keyframe Based "Tweening" System
- Smoothed Animation
- More Control Over Your Effects
- New Improved Timeline Interface

Grading And Colour Tools To Aid Composition
- Colour Tools Derived From DigiGrade
- Enhanced Layer Control

Render Engine
- OpenGL Based Render Engine
- Retains Sound
- Field Accurate Rendering For Broadcast Quality

New Media Support
- Microsoft DirectShow Support (including Microsoft DV)
- QuickTime 6 Support
- Image Stream Support
- Enhanced Image Support
System Support
- Windows 2000/XP
- MacOS X (10.1 Or Higher)

Over 150 Unique Effects Plugins
- Enhanced Plugins
- Simple Plugin Creation
Hundreds Of Stock Footage Effects
- Online database of stock footage effects
Posted: Thu, 4th Dec 2003, 11:07am

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The year is nearly ended and we are still waiting for the most waited upgrade. ANY news?
Posted: Thu, 4th Dec 2003, 6:44pm

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Calm down everybody...One thing that I have learned about these CSB fellows over the years is that when they get quiet that means the bomb is about to drop... hint hint wink wink nudge nudge...

Canta unsure
Posted: Thu, 4th Dec 2003, 10:08pm

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Uh, it has been quiet all year, what the hell do you mean? I am not holding my breath for this year, or 2004 or 3004...

Let them surprise me when they announce it, when ever that will be, I give up waiting, I think from May to now, since February, well, I have better things to wait for, like the new G5 alchemytv card that will blow you away on the G5...

http://www.miglia.com/products/video/alchemytv/index.html

Yeah, I had high hopes, but I must have been too early to buy the product... After all, I was promised a release in May, then silence...

Let them take their sweet time... Though when it comes out and I find a load of bugs, well then sorry but then perhaps you should have given us a beta long ago to at least voice our experience...

Never mind...

Wonder if this post will be deleted like the others who are not happy with how long it takes...
Posted: Thu, 4th Dec 2003, 11:00pm

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Hi deeds, sorry you feel that way.

We've tried to keep people updated throughout the year, talking about the delays and explaining the reasons via news reports and Spotlight articles, as well as in these product topics and on the chat - check through the news archive, maybe you missed some of the important updates?

We've tried to be honest and frank about the situation in a way I think few companies usually are with their customers. I'm sorry you don't think that we did enough.

We have been beta testing for many weeks now, and it has been very successful (thanks again to the beta testers!).

I'm not sure what you're referring to with regard to us deleting other posts "like the others who are not happy with how long it takes". I don't believe we've deleted any posts that have expressed their disappointment with the delays - the only times we may have deleted such posts is if they were offensive, obscene or repeats (which goes for any posts anywhere on the forum, of course).

In fact, just on the last few pages here there are posts that either express their disappointment our outright criticise us. So I'm not sure where you're coming from with that one.

As we've said repeatedly, we're as annoyed at these delays as you guys, and we're doing our damnedest to get the products out. For those of you willing to wait just a little longer, keep your eyes and ears open - it draws close...
Posted: Fri, 5th Dec 2003, 2:32am

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Hey Deeds,

Just think about the people who bought Alamdv2 last year and so forth.
Do you see them here nagging CSB?

Just relax, with the rest of us...I rather them push the release of it back,and get a better program..then get a buggy one wink

I say take your time,and get it right the first time..and


Hey..Tarn.....When did the beta invites go out??? I didn't get one sad....


wink
Posted: Fri, 5th Dec 2003, 12:35pm

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Sorry jedicowboys, maybe next time. wink
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I can't believe this thread is still rambling on!

The format seems to be that every 1 or 2 pages or so, a new anonymous person (or someone pretending to be different, Deeds...if that is your real name Sisko Kid!) takes it upon themselves to emotionally blackmail CSB-Digital into releasing the software earlier.
Then, one or more members of CSB practically copy and paste the very same message they used to answer someone else's neurotic burbling on a prevous page!

Can't we lock this?

It boggled my mind on pages 1 and 2, and it still boggles my mind now!

I have nothing against people voicing their grievances about the time it takes for software to be release. It is obviously annoying when a manufacturer says one thing, then does another, especially when people actually plan stuff around software releases.

However I *am* against people writing these childish, petulant, arms-crossed, mock-despairing posts which are meant to goad CSB into doing something they simply aren't going to do for you, or anyone!

No amount of vigilante "well if you don't do it soon, i'll take my business elsewhere" posts are going to force any software company into release software that they don't believe is up to their high standards.

Complain, by all means, but please refrain from embarassing yourselves further by writing petty little ransom posts.

"All good things come to those who wait"

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Posted: Fri, 5th Dec 2003, 1:11pm

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Xcession wrote:

Can't we lock this?
This is the official thread to discuss AlamDV3, it'd be a bit odd to lock it. smile
Posted: Fri, 5th Dec 2003, 1:13pm

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yeah but it seems people are just using it as an excuse to vent at you guys!

oh well, guess you have a point.

my suggestion would be to move all subsequent posts of this nature to a new thread called "i'm a whiney moron"
Posted: Fri, 5th Dec 2003, 2:07pm

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To all those whiners out there - be patient!!!

Everyone wants to get hold of AlamDV 3, Chromanator & Digigrade ever since CSB posted the info in front of our salivating faces...

It has been a long time, but grow up guys unsure

If I remember right, CSB have about 5 people on their staff. They are a very SMALL company. From what I gather, each person is doing a lot of different tasks at the same time (except Malone...he's eating cake wink )

Now, think of how many people there are in other bigger companies developing individual products. They have HUNDREDS on their payroll, each assigned a particular area of a product.

If a big company sets a release date, yes, it's reasonable to take their word for it, because they have the ability to deliver what they say.

On the other hand, CSB, a much smaller company, set a possible release date. Personally, I didn't think they would deliver. Think about it. If they had released the products when they said they would, that would have been an extraordinary achievement.

Now please stop whining. CSB have enough to worry about without the possibility that people are getting fed up & won't buy their product, just because some self-righteous people are getting too unempathetic. As Xcession says, good things come to those who wait.
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Xcession is right biggrin
Some of those posts are silly. Guys, had you ever read what you wrote, before posting? Or maybe someone was drunk? tard
Either way, I don't thinks that this should be still discussed. They will realese, when They're ready. Simple, isn't it?
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-END-

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Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2003, 3:10am

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Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2003, 3:22am

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ooo sure sure j/k cool
Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2003, 3:46am

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Hey everybody, lets just change the subject to a more positive mood.

I'll start.

Although I too am patiently awaiting the release of ver. 3, I used ver. 2 to create a new logo animation for my videography company, and it turned out spectacular!

I used Ulead Cool3D Studio to create a basic animation of a solid block of granite flying in from out of frame, then changing into my company's logo by means of an organic transition used in Adobe Prem 6. Then I exported the footage and brought it into ALAM2, added cool lasers, welding sparks, various lightsaber flashes, bullet impact dust and rocks and so forth (about 8 different effects) to create the illusion that off-screen laser cutters were carving the logo out of the rock.

After adding BG music and some laser, rock crumbling SFX, I had the most impressive animation I've ever created! I've shown it to clients as an example of my abilities, and they have been blown away! If only they knew how easy it really was to create, thanks to ALAM DV2.

I'd love to hear some other success stories you all have had, and maybe if we convince enough visitors to invest in this fine product, CSB might be able to hire a couple extra hands and help get the much anticipated Ver. 3 out faster.

To the guys at CSB, thanks, your product has made me money, and paid for itself 10 fold! Keep up the great work!
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Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2003, 1:40pm

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So, uh, Sisko Kid. I'm a bit confused.

So this nasty guy who's been expelled - "Deeds" - henceforth known as ETB for short (stands for Evil Twin Brother). He did what exactly? He logged into your account? or you left your account unlogged out and you left the workstation? Bummer dude. I remember when school was like that. My condolences.

I offer my sympathy too, for the way that Deeds also stole your style of writing! Like the use of "..." every 5 words, where any normal person would use proper punctuation. You must feel totally empty - having had your own style stolen as well as your computer account. I can't say i've ever encountered people hijacking someone's account, then being perceptive enough to type in the same style as the person they are desparately pretending not to be...but i can only guess that it's a sobering experience.

May god have mercy on ETB's soul!
Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2003, 1:50pm

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Dave gets easily confused but I do agree it is better to either simply apologise or keep quiet when you get caught out.

Coming up with some lame excuse that it was your little brother, evil twin or 'someone at school who's out to get you' just makes you look dafter and gives you more to climb down from. It's been done plenty of times before and several of those people have gone on to become upstanding members of the alam community.
Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2003, 2:33pm

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Just a quick question,
When you say people who purchased after January 1st does that mean when they registered the product or when they actually paid for it.
E.g Someone buys AlamDv2 (Money changes hands) on December 25th 2002 but registers it a week later on January 1st 2003 do they still get the upgrade?
Cheers

Rawree
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day bought
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christmas present, eh?
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You guys are right... It ends now!

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Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2003, 6:29pm

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How about we drop it.
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Yeah, you guys want to take this any further, do it in private messages. This is not the place.
Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2003, 4:49am

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I have to throw this in here: twisted

AlamDV3 wont be coming out until after Chromanator. Chromanator isn't out yet. Wait until Chromanator is out before asking "When is AlamDV3 gonna come."

It'll come out after Chromanator.

Now...how long after...well we'll just have to wait and see.

(And when is Chromanator coming out? twisted When it's ready...hehe...hahaha...MUWAHAHAHAHAHHAHH!!!)

wink
Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2003, 10:35pm

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Why are you guys so concerned about getting it before christmas?
It's not like anyone has a major rush to make a blockbuster in the next 2 weeks biggrin

Remember CSB,

We want...
QUALITY LATER, rather than a poorer prog now biggrin
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i just want to show my dissapointment for alamdv3 not compatible with window 98.you have betrayed me cry nooooooooooo!

PS:
this post has been edited by my brother to avoid the two paragraph cry emoticon and the eight paragraph string of dirty words
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LOL, 98! christ dude. You're buying (or gonna buy) new media products to do amazing things with digital camera footage. Digital Cameras were practically non-existant when windows 98 was out....at least upgrade your computer to match the software you're desparately trying to use on your pathetic machine razz

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