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Minor Vigilance

Posted: Wed, 25th Jun 2003, 11:19am

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Minor Vigilance is a test movie that turned out to be much more...the plot kind of grew on me so I've decided to make a sequel...all of my cast worked hard...and I appreciate their help...The entire movie other than that was made by me...The music was created by me and my cousin, Marty Washington, using reason ( www.propellerheads.se )...I edited in Final Cut Pro 3...Extra compositing was done in AE and AlamDV...and for the record I too hate Magic Bullet...CSB bring on DigiGrade wink...All critiques welcome and thank you for watching...

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Posted: Wed, 25th Jun 2003, 12:23pm

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Titles NICE wink

Sound out of sync and should have used a external mic.

Some bad cuts in there.

The main boss guy could have played Biff in Back to the Future.

Well tried, look forward to seeing the next bit
Posted: Wed, 25th Jun 2003, 4:41pm

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Well done, we are finally getting more movies into the cinema that are from start to finish. Some of the acting was a bit cheesey, but thats hard to overcome untill everyone has worked and done a couple movies. Overall though, I liked it alot. I could see differences in each character, and they all fit their own little profile. Editing wasn't too bad, and the storyline was pretty intriguing. How did you do the bullet hits? Those aren't real squibs are they? I'm assuming they are fireworks taped to your chest with something behind it of some sort...Either way, they look awesome! Goodjob, hope to see more from you.
Posted: Wed, 25th Jun 2003, 8:04pm

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Yeah...no clue why the sound was off...i think it may have been the compression...the uncompressed version has great sound and looks great too...I dont know of any of the bad cuts you speak of i have been over each of them at least a million times...again could be the compression...i might have to look at that and see how to fix it...what is the best audio compressor to use with cleaner anyway??

Hajiku: Yeah they were fireworks...but instead of using just an ordinary firecracker I used water dynamite....it has the same punch as a m-80 but is the same size as a firecracker...and underneath is a weightlifting belt...oh and as for the cast you hit it spot on...none of those guys had ever even met each other before...so it was kind of hard to get everyone in sync...I think my next movie is gonna be a blaxploitation vigilante movie...Starring that guy dressed in all black with all the bling-bling...its gonna be sweet....

Sorry everybody the server is down right now but will be up within the next 2 to 3 hours...

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Posted: Wed, 25th Jun 2003, 8:41pm

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The Server is back up enjoy your downloading....hehe

http://hopedeferred.no-ip.com/

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Posted: Wed, 25th Jun 2003, 9:46pm

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The squibs were swwet, and your sig is awesome.

The one thing the movie needs is more action, and a little more character development.


That fat guy (no offense) was probably the most prominent character. By the time he was shot, you had an idea who he was, and what he was about. It made the movie more connected and more enjoyable. Unfortunately, you don't quite get the same level of character for everyone else. You need to develop the good guys before they go into an action scene. If you want to open with an action scene, and you don't have time for charater development, you should either let the good guys kick everyone's ass, or make sure you explain the characters later.

Oh yeah, and next time, I want to see lots of squics and shooting. You know, like in Pharmacide. biggrin
Posted: Wed, 25th Jun 2003, 11:14pm

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Yeah man i noticed that too...i was gonna make that part a flash back and have the guy who got shot (Bill) live and the other guy die(Paul)...and Bill would come back and kill the boss and Tyrone(the black guy with the bling) and there would be different flashbacks in between...such as when they first met...how they met the boss and crap like that...the boss was gonna be the principal of the high school that they went to and I should have made Tony (the big guy) look just a bit older...The guy who played Tony did a great job I think im gonna put him in a lot of my movies, he has lots of character...Thanks for all of the criticisms...Oh and Sidey my next movie is about a guy who loses his family to street violence and rises up to become a vigilante of the night...oh it is gonna be sooo sweet...lots of gun play...tons....

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Posted: Thu, 26th Jun 2003, 2:37am

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Very nice. Well planned, good acting, awesome effects, and great music track. I liked how you started off not seeing the 2 guyz faces then revealing them near the end. Acting came out better than a lot of other films do. People tend 2 frustrate and make the filmer take what he can get but you (and the actors) seemed to have a good feel for the persona they took on and add to the depth of the plot.

My only recommendations would be MAS FIGHTING!!! I love fight sequences, xpecially when they are put together well. Also, perhaps don't to try and be 2 hollywood with your film shots becomes sometimes it seems you are trying to hard 2 acheive that and going beyond what type of shot you should have.

Overall, definately one of the better movies I've viewed on this site!
Posted: Thu, 26th Jun 2003, 2:51am

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Thanks a bunch man the Hallway scene was kind of gay and ive learned from it...My next movie is gonna be straight shots...im going back to the old school of editing...don't go too fancy when a fundamental shot will do just fine...I'm gonna shoot this next movie like a straight up Tarantino/Rodriguez brain child...it's gonna be sweet...lots of cuts and a bunch of tape...im gonna do this one like a pro...wish me luck...

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Posted: Thu, 26th Jun 2003, 2:57am

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I actually thought the hallway scene was very well done. (I'm talking about the bullet time sequence.) It was a really good attempt at "faking" bullet time.
Posted: Thu, 26th Jun 2003, 6:08am

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Yeah i thought that the shooting part of the hallway scene was good but the bullettime part was just cheesy...I'm glad that everyone has enjoyed my practice film so far...

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Posted: Thu, 26th Jun 2003, 3:34pm

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BUMP
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Posted: Thu, 26th Jun 2003, 3:43pm

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Hajiku_Flip wrote:

I actually thought the hallway scene was very well done. (I'm talking about the bullet time sequence.) It was a really good attempt at "faking" bullet time.
I thought it was very well done too! Canta, what editing effect was it you used? and is the sound effect available online?

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Posted: Thu, 26th Jun 2003, 3:51pm

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Posted: Thu, 26th Jun 2003, 4:02pm

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Thanks man...it is nothing more than a motion blur when the camera is moving closer to an object and a then we slow down to 1/4th speed...i still think there should have been more distortion...oh well...but the sound is self-made...I can post it for you on my site if you want...mp3 or what?? just let me know...

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Posted: Thu, 26th Jun 2003, 4:25pm

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Nice flick. The mob big guy boss or whatever did get annoying...was he supposed to?

The hallways shot was sweet and cool music. Good job.
Posted: Thu, 26th Jun 2003, 4:37pm

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Yeah he was...he was supposedly the disgrace to the mob and therefore had to die...he never did any work, and runs a seedy night club...he is basically a total contrast and yet a complete stereotype of the mob and mob life...he is gross and thats what makes it funny...just a bit of a back story...

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Posted: Fri, 27th Jun 2003, 1:41am

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Comte wtf man you just took down the entire average of my movie...a zero, i would have hoped that you would have a bit more respect for my hard work than to give me a zero...man that sucks...oh well i guess you are entitled to your opinion...anusfaced fart knocker...

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Posted: Fri, 27th Jun 2003, 3:10am

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Canta,

Nicely done my friend! I could've wept for joy when I saw that this movie had a plot, albeit simple, that was clear, well executed, and easy to follow from beginning to end... Not that every plot has to be easy, but we need a minimum of info (referring to DXM here and I digress... I apologize.)

Characters where well defined, the presentation of the "heroes" intriguing, there was some decent acting in places, although it was very uneven, but still enjoyable. Sound is mediocre though, something has to be done about that for future outings. Nice camera angles, interesting attempt at the "I'm so sick of it, I could puke" bullet time, it gets points for originality of treatment at least!

The big guy character was the most enjoyable, you made him clear as day in broad strokes, you definitely have a talent for characterization. Decent writing that needed better actors. Good ideas, nice camera angles, overall choice of shots was very competent and drove the story.

I think that what b4 says about your editing is true: some weird cuts in places, meaning the timing of some cuts is wrong. Either you cut too late or too early. Try to fix that in future outings.

Must say that I was intrigued by your 18+ certificate. Don't think it deserves that, maybe a 15+ maybe.

I think you are talented, man. Keep it up! You get a 4 from me because of the technical aspect (sound, editing, weak acting). But as far as directing goes, hats off!

PS: Is the Elizabeth Avellan you credit in the Thanks Robert's wife? (Robert as in Rodriguez). If so, you are one connected dude, dude!

Cheers!
Posted: Fri, 27th Jun 2003, 3:14am

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Hey! Me again.

Forgot to say. You shouldn't vote for yourself. That's not very mature. And of course you'll give yourself the highest note. You work hard on your film! Even if jerks give you zero or put you down without reasons, or bothering to justify themselves at least, it's not worth compensating by voting for yourself! Let the work be the judge! You are not faring too bad considering it was going to be a test movie.

That's just an opinion by the way. Thought I'd share it with you.
Posted: Fri, 27th Jun 2003, 3:14am

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It was rated 18+ for the language (they even dropped the n-bomb, which can be pretty controversial) and of course the shooting and what not. 15+ is shakey ground, so I think thats why they went with 18.
Posted: Fri, 27th Jun 2003, 3:56am

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Yeah . . nice squibs . . . it was like Pharmacide, but a lot slower . . .

You need to have a REAL shoot out like the showdown in Pharmacide!!!
Posted: Fri, 27th Jun 2003, 5:21am

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Cantaclaro

Good flick

Most advice has been said, so i'll spare you the wisdom.

But i must say that if u want to rate your movie a 5 then do it!

Some find it honorable to not rate one's own movie, JohnCarter called it maturity, well i think it is stupid to call it maturity. It's like he's attacking you on an indirect level. F*** him. It may be humble to not rate your movie, but it was wrong of him to call you immature.

Good luck on the conclusion!

ILYKDP cool
Posted: Fri, 27th Jun 2003, 5:51am

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Thanks everybody...JohnCarter I don't believe you are correct in your assumption...every presidential election the president places a vote for himself...That french dude that gave me a zero prolly didn't know what was going on so i tried to balance the vote...I don't think that is immature...it isn't as if i didn't work hard enough to earn that 5 so whatever...but thanks for the tips i will definitely keep them all in mind...and never again will i use the bullet time...its its too powerful and somebody might get hurt...

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Posted: Fri, 27th Jun 2003, 6:14am

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This was a very good job. Definitely more than one of those "I'm bored, let's make a movie" movies like we see so often.

PROS:

Locations. Your settings were very well chosen. The house with all the baddies in it was a perfect place for that type of people.

Squibs. Great. They looked very realistic.

Acting. It wasn't the best, but still better than most on here.

CONS:

Acting. See above.

Aspect Ratio. It was obvious to me that this was NOT filmed in widescreen, but squashed/stretched to fit the aspect ratio in post. It just didn't look all that great. It's more apparent some places than others, but yeah. If I'm wrong about that, your camera has some really wierd widescreen on it...
Posted: Fri, 27th Jun 2003, 6:23am

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no man you are perfectly correct...i did the same thing as Mecha and Sidey did with their compressed movie...cleaner 2 pass vbr but mine was 320 x 180...got the instructions from cypher...but yeah...im about to get a gl1 and fcp4 then i will be on my game...all my crap will be in true widescreen...yall are really helping me out here with all of the comments...it gives me something to shoot for...i know i can do better...i will do better...can yall name specific scenes that were weaker than others and stuff like that...your comments have been good but could you make them a bit more specific to different characters and scenes?? Thanks a bundle...

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Thought so.
Posted: Fri, 27th Jun 2003, 6:37am

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You got any advice Aculag??

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Posted: Fri, 27th Jun 2003, 1:23pm

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For the record, I meant no "attack" on anybody by my comment. I was barely expressing an opinion as I thought we could do here.

In any case, Canta keep up the good work! Can't wait for the sequel!
Posted: Fri, 27th Jun 2003, 6:35pm

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I do agree with John Carter on the whole voting for yourself bit...I don't think its "immature" as he said, but rather that it requires less character to vote for yourself rather than not. Also, not a personal attack, just my beliefs.

cantaclaro: you ccan compress the film to 320x180 (i use 320x170) without having the image squashed easily. In the image section of cleaner (when ur in advanced), just set the crop to numeric and take off i beleive its like 30 or 40 from bottom and top. Play around until it looks like it.
Posted: Sat, 28th Jun 2003, 8:42pm

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Hey Canta!

Nice job with the movie. I thought it played out quite well (especially as you said you expanded it after it being a test).

Congrats to the actors as it was evident that they put alot into the production.
Good to see you used squibs, can't beat the effect for realism and impact.

I also was impressed that you'd created your own music score, another string to your bow!
I look forward to your next venture

All the best smile
Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2003, 2:25pm

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wink
possitive:
special efects
realism
music...
the actors
the places

negative
the end
MORE ACTION...

but the film its very good smile Can't wait for the sequel!
Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2003, 4:38pm

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Canta -

Your movie was entertaining and cut together nicely. It had certain flavor that was distinct and I enjoyed it. Great job!
Posted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2003, 8:28am

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Thanks a bunch yall...estoy en españa ahora...but i will be working hard to get my next movie out in time for christmas...wish me luck...

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Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2003, 9:50am

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I gave this movie a big fat zero cause it was racist! I'm a black man and I dont like the N word being used in this piece of crap.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2003, 10:04am

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Usage of the 'N' word is a particularly complex part of the English language. The word evolved during the course of the 20th century to hold several meanings, depending on your culture, ethnicity and personal beliefs. I don't even pretend to have an understanding of all its definitions.

The occurance of the word in this film is what gave it the '18' certificate, although I do not believe for a moment the word was intended to be insulting - not least because it was spoken by a black actor.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2003, 10:42am

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And written by a black director...it wasn´t insulting...it wasn´t a term of indearment....it is just a word so calm down...I´m black but even if i wasn´t i would say it just cuz i can who cares its all retarded...and Tarn is right the word has evolved much in the 20th century....I have never been through any real racism...and neither have you...so why does a word like that matter to you at all... oh and since you aren´t a gold member your vote doesn´t really count...oh well...i do what i want....

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Posted: Thu, 31st Jul 2003, 11:42pm

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I'm back at home...my server turned off while I was gone so I apologize to anyone who didn't get to see the movie...It is back up now and will remain up...Hope yall like it...

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