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The Matrix Rejected

Posted: Thu, 10th Jul 2003, 10:30am

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RudyPicardo

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This is my very first sumbission to th FXhome community!

The movie is a spoof of the Matrix, Dragonball Z, Fist of the North Star and Friday.

It was performed by some of my summer conference (high-school) students for their final project. I plan to use it as a test for a similar movie within the next year. It was filmed in less than 4 hours.

The file is rather large (53 MB), as it is a 5 minute short film. I just submitted two smaller versions (17 MB) on both Windows Media 8 and Quicktime to accomodate peoples requests

Special thanks to fellow AlamDV users including:
jirwin
Sollthar
Hajiku_Flip
Billy3d
Moebius
ADA1989
All the other users who submitted plug-ins and gave advice.
(I couldn't have done this without you people. Expect any small amounts of force points I get to be redistributed to all of you)

Suggestions are encouraged and welcomed....PLEASE! I care more about trying to make my future project more "Matrixesque" than I care about force points. Just be kind as it is not only my first action movie, but also my students'.

I've watched some of the other Matrix-Inspired films - I have MUCH to learn from all of you.
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Posted: Thu, 10th Jul 2003, 3:56pm

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mod_007

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Good movie, it was funny.
The fight scenes were very well done.
4 stars from me!
Posted: Thu, 10th Jul 2003, 4:26pm

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Hajiku_Flip

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Rudy came into the chat last night and I was very impressed with his mannerisms and excitement towards film making. He told me about a film he had made but said it wasn't anything good compared to everything else since it was his first try. So when he gave me a link I was expecting the normal first try test shots, but what I saw was anything but that! The use of Alam effects in this movie was surperb. The faked bullet time was probably the best imitation I've seen on this site. I really thought they used the real matrix method there for a second (I still would believe it if he told me eek ). Some memorable punch-lines thrown in, and great music gives an overall great first-time experience. Can't wait to see more from you! razz
Posted: Thu, 10th Jul 2003, 4:28pm

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Greyo

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everything flip said.

Great matrix fan film, really enjoyed it. Look forward to your next project

loved the disclaimer biggrin very funny
Posted: Thu, 10th Jul 2003, 4:54pm

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Riese

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That was funny. I enjoyed it 4 stars from me.

Pros
just enough comedy and action. Made me laugh and wince at the same time
Guys in the film seem to be into what they were doing
effects were used properly

Cons
Sound, I have learned alot about sound just by doing my own movie, but alot of the time it was hard to make out words in the echoness of the hallway, put together with the music made it doubly hard to make out the words. Maybe a condenser mike would help you out.

ALthough the effects were good. They seemed jumpy. I think it's becuase you are tying to place each frame, which makes the effect jump around. I know this becuase I used to make the same error. Learn the Tweening process (which is quicker) It allows the effect to kinda move more smoothly.

Once agian great job on your first film. I look forward to seeing more of your stuff. Also dont get locked in to just doing matrix style films. Try another Genre, you might find a new liking.

Riese
Posted: Thu, 10th Jul 2003, 7:32pm

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Merola

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Sorry, but I cant say I liked it sad... but that's just me, I'm picky smile
Looks like the movie was made in a hurry smile

Good music though...
Posted: Thu, 10th Jul 2003, 7:58pm

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Spam_Daddy

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that was funny smile
Posted: Thu, 10th Jul 2003, 9:11pm

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RudyPicardo

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My sincere thanks to the submissions I've recieved so far. I'll do my best to learn and build on some of your comments. If possible I'd like to know what some of you specifically liked or disliked about the film. As stated before, I'm new at this entire genre. I'd like to either build on some of my successful parts of the project OR refocus and retry certain aspects that need improvement.

For example, user Hajiku_Flip stated that "the faked bullet time was probably the best imitation he's seen on the site." In contrast, user Reise suggested I should learn more about "the Tweening process" to improve some of the special effects in my movies.

These positive or constructive comments exemplify the BEST things about the FXhome.com community.

As stated on the submission page, it WAS shot in only 4 hours. As a graduate student, I don't have the luxury of large budgets or time to spend on a "Cannes Film Festival" quality film. My students spent good money to learn other subjects. It would be unlawful to ask them to sacrifice their own time just to make a film with a program that I'm still learning.

If you're expecting something professional quality, I apologize for wasting your time. My movies aren't good enough for Hollywood, CA. (Inglewood, CA, maybe)

In all seriousness, its difficult to work on projects when I'm given NO opportunity to learn and improve with suggestions. So help me make them more professional looking by giving me some specifics, please.

I want to learn.
Posted: Thu, 10th Jul 2003, 10:10pm

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Cypher

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Your main problem was the editing and continuity. You lost it a few times as actors were in different positions between cuts or doing different things.
Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 12:56pm

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Coldfuse

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hmm seeing that it is ur first im gonna let u go easy. few tips though,

1 invest into a tripod, im not being rude here but some of the speical effects really coulda looked good, if the camera wasnt shaking, like the bullet time effect. Because the camera shaked the bullets were going all over the place making it look soooo fake. If u was able to steady the shot then u would get a more realistic effect.

Hmm in the future u may want to look into scripting, i didnt really find this funny, and comedy is very hard because on a personal level to u, u may find it so funny u could die, but to others it seems a little silly, so be careful in the future.

You have some cool ideas, and i think in the future you will be able to use the special effects to your advantage and really make some nice stuff, so just keep working on it, and trust me a tripod woulda done real nice on that bullet effect part, shame about the shaking!!!!
Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 2:59pm

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spheerix

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I really didn't see anything special in this movie.
Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 6:28pm

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CoolKabe

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Mr. "Rudy," the way you've written on these last too post makes me believe that you consider this site to be full of "cinema-quality" films. You wrote

If you're expecting something professional quality, I apologize for wasting your time. My movies aren't good enough for Hollywood, CA. (Inglewood, CA, maybe)
Well, don't worry, we're not expecting any here. Just search the cinema's lower end of the voting spectrum. wink

I haven't seen you film yet, but I'm sure it's good. biggrin

-Later,
Adam "CoolKabe" Kabe twisted
Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 7:25pm

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RudyPicardo

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Brazil
Canada
France
Netherlands
Thailand
United Kingdom
United States


My personal and sincere thanks to representatives from these countries that took the time to watch my FIRST attempt at an action movie. Although I know that some of you were unimpressed, I am humbled by those who priased my first attempt.

I am especially thankful to the elite and honorable few that took time out of of their schedule to give me tips in improving my skills. You inspire me and represent the best of the best here in FXhome.com. Whether it is utilizing a condenser mic, improving my tweening skills, putting audio a millisecond before pefroming the video transition, or just being more aware and efficient with my tripod, know that I will do my best to learn from what you've taught me.

And to those "haters" out there. Bless you. You're usless input makes me appreciate the positive input I get even more.

Its not the programs, but the good people that make FXhome.com so great
Posted: Sun, 13th Jul 2003, 1:56pm

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RudyPicardo

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Thanks to those that are still spending their valuable time to download the movie! Special thanks for those who were crazy enough to add this to your personal top 10! (WHAT?!?) If you want a force point, just let me know who you are!

I'd also like to add that on Sunday July 13, 2003 from 4 am to 11 pm (EST) the filebox system where my movies are stored will be down. The university periodically has to clean the system...and todays the day for that. DOOH!

Keep those constructive suggestions coming!
Posted: Tue, 15th Jul 2003, 4:37am

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sidewinder

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Ha! That was better than I thought it would be. My tip: either go for more comedy or more action. This movie seemed a little split between the two, but it never became a major issue. The comedy was pretty good. You should do some more.

Also, as a general rule, remember: The more time you spend on a movie, the better it is.

Oh, and do some effects tests to help develop your skillz before you find yourself in over your head when doing a big film.
Posted: Wed, 16th Jul 2003, 5:53am

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MATT PUGH

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LMAO! LMAO LMAO! LMAO!!

Now that was funny. I have to give you credit. I love the whole Friday series. In fact that is the only reason I'm not gonna rip this movie to shreds in my review! Here is a nice way to say this. Your actors need a tune up more than a 1962 ford pinto! Also your effects move all over the place. A tripod is needed here!

Other than that I can't say much more, besides the fact that you should work on your music editing skills and filming style.


PS. the fact that you have a lot of culture in your film makes me happy. I thought I was the only one to do that. Oh and CX3.



PEACE OUT!