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The State of Play

Posted: Thu, 10th Jul 2003, 4:08pm

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Now that all the excitement of the FXhome.com launch has passed, many of you are wondering what is happening with the new products. We thought it was time to bring you all up-to-date on what is happening here at CSB-Digital.

As you know, we are developing three products simultaneously - Chromanator, AlamDV3 and DigiGrade. These are all using the technology of our brand new G6 engine, enabling them all to seem familiar and have powerful interfaces.

Chromanator was to be the first program released and, consequently, was at the front of the development cycle. When it was about 75% complete we hit a few unexpected problems. The intended method for creating interface elements in one part of the program was not capable of supporting all the functions we had subsequently designed, let alone the functions of AlamDV3 and DigiGrade.

As our release date approached we had 2 options - one was to drop some functionality from Chromanator in its first release and re-program this part of the engine for AlamDV3, DigiGrade and a future Chromanator update. This would not only have delayed AlamDV3 and DigiGrade even more but would also have given us two different engines to test and debug. Although it would have enabled Chromanator to be released quickly, it would have resulted in a nightmare situation afterwards and ultimately resulted in many more delays.

The alternative was risky for the company but much better for the new programs. By holding back Chromanator, we could re-write a large section of the G6 engine to make it more expandable while taking advantage of some of the team's new ideas. This would delay Chromanator, of course, but it would mean that all the new applications would be based on our latest technology, making them as professional and powerful as possible.

The future of CSB-Digital relies upon the new applications being a significant and impressive advance beyond our current software - therefore we chose the second option. This has put considerable financial strain on the company and has been a hectic and stressful time, especially with the FXhome.com launch happening at the same time. However, we do believe that this was the best route to take, and will result in some top-quality products that have the potential to revolutionise amateur and low-budget filmmaking.

It's been a long and difficult road and there is still a little way to go. We'd like to thank you all for your patience over the course of the last few months. Hopefully when you get to try out the new programs the wait will have been worth it!
Posted: Thu, 10th Jul 2003, 4:24pm

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Whoo! Way to put forth the extra effort. I'm sure it will all be worth it in the end biggrin

Posted: Thu, 10th Jul 2003, 5:25pm

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Well at least the progs will be better! smile
Posted: Thu, 10th Jul 2003, 5:45pm

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anonymous

Thank you, thank you, and a thousand times, thank you
for being considerate and caring about your product.

I feel even better about buying from CSB knowing
that care and quality are a prime attribute of the
CSB-Digital team.
Posted: Thu, 10th Jul 2003, 8:21pm

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I don't mind the delays at the moment. Don't really have a fully working computer. sad Keep them bound though csb!

*nods head
Posted: Thu, 10th Jul 2003, 9:11pm

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must buy csb digital products crazy must... buy... (thud)
no, i'm not insane, just happy that the programs are going to be better.... and the wait... well, i'll have more time to save my money to afford them...
Posted: Thu, 10th Jul 2003, 9:28pm

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I rather have to wait ,than have a bugy program...just one thing didn't tell us, about how long it might take?

I check fxhome just about everyday since the new site has been up,to see if the new programs are done or a update about the programs has been posted ,would be nice to know about when it would be done ..any guess will do a few weeks,a month, a few months?? wink

But, i know i'll still check everyday even if you don't post a date..lol


thxs for the update
Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 3:36am

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while at first, I thought all the delay excuses and reasons were a little bit unprofessional of a growing company, I've decided of late, that I respect the honesty and candor with which y'all have represented yourselves with.

I hadn't originally intended on it, but now I'll buy all of your upcoming G6 programs. I may not use them all (or possibly any of them), but you guys have impressed me to no end. So I'll support you anyway.

I really do respect that you're holding out for quality of product rather than the fast buck.
Keep it up guys.

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Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 3:41am

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Is it just me or was this not really an update? didn't we already know they didn't want to release buggy stuff?

this more just like a yeah were still here? lol

-MAGIC
Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 7:19am

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Thanks for all the support guys. Reading your stuff on here and chatting to some of you on the live chat makes the work seem so worthwhile.

Cheers!
Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 8:13am

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Magic_man12 - this is more us trying to tell you what happened. We are disappointed that the apps are not ready now, and we don't want to lie to you guys. We had a problem, it has been fixed but we have a little way to go.
Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 9:19am

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I really don't mind the delay! I would much rather have a chroma-keying program that works exceptionally well with little or no bugs. Its really great to hear you are doing things the right way. Keep up the awsome work, we know the final product will be well worth the wait.

Peace,

Paul cool
Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 11:18am

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i have posted this before and i will post it again, and in many different threads, until it happens, maybe even in different languages, sizes and colours, please can we have another video preview of the new programs video preview video preview please crazy wink wink unsure
Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 11:21am

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Well as I've been recoding the stuff you have already seen in the new interface there is not much point for a little while. Although the new interface is different from what you have seen we would rather show off the Chroma key section of the program in the next video. Will make some screen shots soon.
Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 11:39am

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As long as you don't do an Eidos and lie about the release date and then again about the actual products development.

smile Respect due, we all know whats happening and as customers we understand the truth more than another simple and often used 'we are making it better'.

I hate games companies biggrin
Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 12:21pm

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You truly chose the right options, great luck to you all and I will inform so many I can about FXhome.com couse its really a way of life
Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 2:58pm

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I understand that this problem has put CSB in a dilema of many facets, money being just one of them. I have enjoyed your software, website, and most of all the comradery that comes from the personal interaction of CSB's staff in answering questions, making suggestions, and just plan being friendly. I would like to do my part to help, maybe I could preorder my copy of ALAMDV, go ahead and pay now and then you could just notify me when it was ready. Because my internet connect is so slow it takes forever just to download a single plugin, I would be willing to buy a compilation of plugins and bet that many others would to. If you burned them to a CD i would be glad to pay $30.00 US (plus S/H)
Posted: Fri, 11th Jul 2003, 3:07pm

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I second bjpage whole-heartedly.
Posted: Tue, 15th Jul 2003, 12:36am

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I have been on vacation* without a computer confused I popped in on Monday and was not near my PC the rest of the week.

As always your guys have been very open and honest. It is truly awesome to be affiliated with this community and the company that provides it.
CSB-Digital has been quite exceptional when it comes to these types of things. Instead of putting up some half finished "vapor-ware"(jeez that is an old term) you have all ponied up and dug in for the long haul. I think you made the right decision. biggrin As always I wish you all the best of luck on the road ahead.




*"holiday" for you folks across the pond
Posted: Tue, 15th Jul 2003, 2:31am

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oh well, i'm eagerly awaiting alamdv3 but i guess waiting longer is better than having so many bug fixes like microsoft.

i have a reasonably fast connection but i think i'd buy a cd of plugins anytime. hope you guys consider this idea.
Posted: Tue, 15th Jul 2003, 11:53pm

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I think you handle this professionally. All cred to the csb team!
Posted: Wed, 16th Jul 2003, 2:24pm

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picturehouse wrote:

i have a reasonably fast connection but i think i'd buy a cd of plugins anytime. hope you guys consider this idea.
...why? if you download you could probably get it alot faster (like a day) but if you get a cd then it would be like a week. And plus why pay for something (shipping or other costs) that you can get perfectly legally for FREE. Not to mention this would mean more work for the csb crew and problably would delay newer and greater updates for the programs we are so eagerly awaiting now.
Posted: Thu, 17th Jul 2003, 3:13pm

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He would buy the CD to help CSB get some money to support the development of their software. It is a great idea. As far as it taking up time, it might take 30 seconds to put a CD in the burner and click the record button then you go do whatever you need while the computer does the rest.
Posted: Thu, 17th Jul 2003, 6:52pm

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As one interface of the new engine is nearly done I have made a quick screen grab for you guys.

There are 3 main interfaces to the new G6 engine.

1. The Object Interface (the one you see here which is 80% complete)
2. The Animation Interface (well on the way)
3. The Picture Interface.

These interfaces will feature in all our new G6 applications - should mean you just need to learn things once to understand all the programs.



If you are looking for the main menu, it was switched off in the build I took this grab from, sorry tard
Posted: Thu, 17th Jul 2003, 10:05pm

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eek its beautiful. ohh... now i really cannot wait!!! but i eagerly await more pictures! eek razz
Posted: Sat, 19th Jul 2003, 5:02pm

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Check out this post for the most recent information on Chromanator and more screen shots...

http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=74299
Posted: Thu, 24th Jul 2003, 5:16pm

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I too agree with bjpage...I would be willing to do anything to help you guys out cuz you have made my movie ideas into movie realities...come to think of it I don´t really think that i need a discount for my purchase of Alam DV3 and I´m sure that many other people would agree...hope this helps...

Canta confused
Posted: Thu, 24th Jul 2003, 5:24pm

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You are all very kind, but we must do things right by you guys. You have supported with AlamDV1 and 2 and thats why we've made the update as cheap as possible and also why if you own any of the new G6 applications you'll get a discount of 10% off the other ones.