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Guns

What Kind?

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Posted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2003, 3:17pm

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ggbros

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Hi,

I was wondering what kind of guns you use in your movies?
Its just that I want realistic guns but dont know how to get them. crazy
Posted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2003, 3:26pm

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I have picked toy, i haven't made any movies, but i had a realistic looking plastic toy gun, that fired lil rubber bullets, which i bought for a pound smile

Go look around all ur locla toy shops to see what u can find...

I also know that the alamdv trailer movies use airsoft guns...

TMM
Posted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2003, 3:33pm

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Yeah some toys are okay... But most of them, here anyway, are to small.. Well aside from that Thank You biggrin
Posted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2003, 3:38pm

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www.realistictoyguns.com the coolest, most realistic looking toy guns EVER eek biggrin
Posted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2003, 3:43pm

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Marek wrote:

www.realistictoyguns.com the coolest, most realistic looking toy guns EVER eek biggrin
REALLY?!?
Posted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2003, 3:53pm

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Does anyone know what they used in Dues Ex Machina, of Sollthars stuff?
Posted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2003, 10:59pm

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ggbros wrote:

Marek wrote:

www.realistictoyguns.com the coolest, most realistic looking toy guns EVER eek biggrin
REALLY?!?
yes.

as for dXm i think they probably either used airsoft guns, bb guns, or real guns with no bullets and stuff.
Posted: Sun, 24th Aug 2003, 6:54pm

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seriously marek, real guns? those boys are still in high school.
a little intelligence goes a long way.

Airsoft guns are the way to go. Photo-realistic (when you remove the orange tips) and bloody cheap.
Airsoft guns are what Mechaforce and Sidewinder used in Deus Ex Machina


and I can tell you just by looking at the pictures that those toy guns on that website are too small to be realistic looking in a movie. unless you're all 8 years old.
Posted: Sun, 24th Aug 2003, 8:08pm

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well geeze im sorry. no need to flame me for guessing. anyway i think that paintball guns could potentially look good, if you take off the hopper and stuff.
Posted: Sun, 24th Aug 2003, 9:07pm

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paintball guns are more expensive than airsoft guns, and very few paintball guns resemble real guns:
RAM M4 is a near perfect replica of the Colt M4; but it costs about $700 US
The AT-4, AT-16, or the AT-85 by ATS look good, but they're about 450 a piece
if you cut off the Cyclone feeder, the Tippman A-5 would work (but that would ruin the gun); and the gun is around 200 bucks
With some work, the Armotech MilSim line could suffice; but they are way too expensive to bother with

trust me on this guys, paintball guns won't convice anyone as a stand in for a real gun in a movie. I know my paintball guns: I own a pro shop and playing field
the only paintball gun that's near affordability that might work is the Armotech Zeus G2; but it's a pistol. it could easily be used as a Judge Dredd type futuristic sidearm


if you want to use paintball guns, it'll need to be in a sci-fi oriented flick, with the paintball guns decked way out, to the point of unrecognizability
Posted: Sun, 24th Aug 2003, 9:24pm

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-1 for that Marek, sorry.

Airsoft is the way to go. And at Gander Mountain, the huntn' an' fishn' store, they sell kick-a$$ airsoft shotguns for 40 bucks. And real guns for about 300 bucks.

Just go on eBay too - I'd start off with a MP5 or a G3A3 - cheap and cool.
Posted: Tue, 26th Aug 2003, 5:22pm

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ggbros

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Thanks, Ice-Man and Mecha, I thought "realistictoyguns" were to small.

And thanks Marek for trying.
Posted: Tue, 26th Aug 2003, 5:25pm

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I've used real weapons in a production before. All of which were deacs, but none the less:

MP41 German machine gun
British Stengun
FN Para machine gun (Weighs a tonne)
And several other rifles (M1 Garande, .22's etc)
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 11:52am

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By using airsoft guns you will have the added pleasure of being able to run around playing with them while not using them for a movie.

http://www.thedudes.nu/~mats/film/sonne.mpg (59Mb movie of a day in the "field")

For more airsoft videos: http://www.seriemordarna.tk ---> Filmer smile
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 12:41pm

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Ice_Man wrote:

seriously marek, real guns? those boys are still in high school.
a little intelligence goes a long way.
have you bothered to look at my profile? I am still in high school. So dont act like i could be some guy thats like 25 telling kids to get real guns for their movies. And start acting your age and not follow me around looking for flaws in my posts. Like the time you called me an idiot for telling a kid that it is illegal to have a copyright sign on your site unless it is legally copyrighted. What was that all about? Well im done being pissed for now. unsure
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 1:20pm

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It's not a matter of your age - - seriously, would we really use real guns in our Jr. High school's auditorium? I mean, come on!

Anyways, as for negative ratings, don't worry about it cause they don't really count!
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 2:07pm

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I was calling you an idiot because you were off topic tooting your own horn.

it doesn't matter how old you are, as mechaforce has just said, it's a matter of common sense.


Only twice have I corrected your 'flaws'. Yup, I've just been following you around cyberspace waiting to slam you. I have a personal vendetta against you. I'm plotting your demise as I type this.
Genius.

if you like, I can browse through all of your posts to slam you. . . . you know, since I've been following you and all. . . . . .
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 3:44pm

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goto www.airsoftdynamics.com
and buy an electric automatic assault rifle..

Not only does it make a sweet prop for films but it also makes the ultimate stress toy. There's nothing more satisfying than leaning out your bedroom window and pumping magpies full of lead (or in thiscase plastic) biggrin
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 5:20pm

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We've used airsoft guns in all but one of our "gun" movies, and the definitely do the trick. Just don't go flashing them around in public or you're likely to have the cops called on you.
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 5:59pm

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Or, if you're filming in your school's auditorium, don't let the janitors find your black duffel bag full of guns.



Oops.
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 6:16pm

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Marek, you seriously shouldn't have said that second post in response to being put down. All it did was make you look worse for not understanding the point of the put down.

and just to say it one more time
It doesn't matter how old you are, you weren't the one in the movie. The point is that you thought high schoolers had even the slightest chance of using real guns in that movie. The piont was not slamming you for a supposed support for guns in school.
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 7:04pm

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Come on everyone lets just goto DQ and have some ice cream smile... than we can throw fists later...

Anyways I think airsoft does a very good job for realistic looking guns in movies. I actually found some toy guns to look pretty good as well. All i did was buy a cheap Wallmart gun and some black spray paint. Did the job and no need to blow lots of cash.
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 7:24pm

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ice cream... mmmmm
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 8:36pm

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Thanks for that picture. I had forgotten what ice cream looked like.



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Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 8:56pm

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Looks like poo.



Ice cream poo.... Kinda frosty. You know the kind.
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 10:22pm

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You've got a point... well it was the only decent "ice cream" image I could find on the web. Whilst.. i found a picture I won't upload for various reasons, titled "ice cream embryo" crazy
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 10:28pm

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Heh, that provides the coolest google image search ever! eek
Posted: Thu, 28th Aug 2003, 11:47am

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In my first feature, I aim to use live firing weapons (With blanks of course). What everyone is forgetting is that if you are of legal age, hold a licence and have experts on-set to provide safety and check all munitions, then your gun scene will go smoothly. Obviously, for the miniscule budget movies that are just projects etc, use Airsoft. But, for realism I aim to use real weapons.
Posted: Thu, 28th Aug 2003, 1:49pm

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everyone wants to use stage guns for their first feature film. but that costs money. lots of money. you don't use real guns with blanks, they're specially designed prop guns that you rent from weapons handlers. and the cost of permits and fees for the weapons handlers and 'on set experts' adds up very quickly.

for the best balance of realism and safety, I'd suggest gas powered airsoft guns
Posted: Thu, 28th Aug 2003, 3:05pm

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Obi

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The costs dont add up if you happen to know someone who has helped work on feature films and is a gun expert. He lives 5 mins from me, and we keep in contact. Funny that. wink
Posted: Thu, 28th Aug 2003, 5:01pm

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"funny"? don't know about that, but good for you