Trailer for The Matrix: An Untold Story
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 10:05am
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|This is the trailer to our newest Matrix Fan Film. We will have the actual film on the site in a few days. Until then, this will have to do. Thanks for watching!!!|Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 10:21am
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First I thought the titles went on a bit to long for a trailer ( nice titles, but too long )
The trailer is done well, and the fx's look very good.
The only thing that lets it down for me is it looks like only 3 locations were used and from those 3 locations you have picked the best bits ?
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 10:47am
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i thought that was good... I agree with B4UASK. The matrix is a very "fast" film - and it'd work better if your titles were a lot quicker to help the feeling of speed. (know what I mean?)
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 11:36am
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Hey, yeah B4 and tap are very right. The titles do move a little to slow for the whole feelin of the trailer.
I thought the production was done very well, nice editing and framing of shots. I think the best bit for me, was the tracking shots you had. I am a big fan of tracking shots. and i think with the music and effects, it suited really well. it was something, of how i might put it. of excellence! lol ok im not gonna go over the top. but well done for making a cool trailer. i can wait for the final production
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 2:14pm
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aside from titles (as everyone has already said) a very nice job. can't wait to see the full thing
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 4:07pm
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Lol, I didn't realize that the title'd be a problem for the trailer. But, like I said, this is just holding us over until we can get the actual movie up. It actually pained me to put this in it's place. The trailer was an afterthought. We are confident that our finished product will satisfy you guys. The titles were modeled off the films actual titles, but everyone we've shown it to likes the beginning titles sequence, so hopefully it works better in the bigger picture. Anyway, thanks for the comments. About the tracking shots, we did them with a car...had the DP in the back seat filming out the window. It works better than a wheelchair
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Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 4:47pm
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Your muzzle flashes looked incredibly fake. You gotta work on that.
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 7:30pm
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Maybe next time...
PS: The wheelchair comment wasn't directed at you. We used one and it resulted in badly bruised knees, a jacked up camera, and much skin removed by asphalt.
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 8:24pm
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you said it was quicktime format... but its a mpeg4
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 9:11pm
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There's no selection for that, and it plays in Quicktime.
Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2003, 9:12pm
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u can get the newest version that is required to play mpeg4 at www.quicktime.com
Posted: Thu, 28th Aug 2003, 12:09am
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Yeah dude Sidey is right...the muzzle flashes didn't look so hot...if you are doing live action (speed=100%) then you only need your flashes to be one frame...and they should be a bit more transparent...i suggest that for hand guns you use the bottom 3 flashes on the "Cinematic Muzzle Flash" plug-in...but other than that the trailer was pretty good...
Posted: Thu, 28th Aug 2003, 5:06pm
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Adding the sword element takes it to a whole new level - maybe some fine tuning and it'll probably be the best Matrix based fan film I know of.
Anyways, what music did you use? (I noticed it was the same track as the one from the Revolutions trailer)
Posted: Thu, 28th Aug 2003, 5:31pm
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Why would the wheelchair comment be directed at me?
Is it about "Fool Skool X-Treme: The Vengeance"?
Oh, and if this is a Matrix fanfilm, you should try to work in other effects besides alamdv ones.
And a quick tip for the muzzle flashes: Add a lens flare over the flash, and use flashes with less defined edges, possibly editing the pre-existing flashes if you need to (like we did in Pharmacide). And if you color-correct this movie, color correct after you've put the flashes in.
Posted: Thu, 28th Aug 2003, 6:48pm
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The wheelchair: yea, cause your pic has two of them, lol. About the "Other effects" - We have no programs for those effects, and we have no money to get them. This movie was done within the limits of our bank accounts, and time. We shot over a 2 day period, and edited for about the same time...both solid, which kinda translates to 12-16 hours each day. We also had to work within the confines of the locations, and the lack of any greenscreen/bluescreen, because all we edited with was iMovie. This was also the first time I ever personally used AlamDV for a short film. CX3 has done many, but I did all the effects for this one. This film was mostly done to be an advertisement for the Film Society that we started at our college. This way we MAY be able to get money for those "Other effects"
. That said, I thank you for the comments and tips, and ask if you suggest any affordable 3d effects software that might be helpful.
Posted: Thu, 28th Aug 2003, 6:53pm
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Anyways, what music did you use? (I noticed it was the same track as the one from the Revolutions trailer)
The song is called "Tarawa" and it comes off of the Snow Falling on Cedars Soundtrack. Finding the name of that song directly from the Revolutions Trailer was hard. Then I just used google and searched for "Matrix Revolutions Trailer Music" which brought up a site titled the same thing, listing both songs used in the trailer. The name of the person who composed it is James Newton Howard. You can only get the CD online, which is what I did, unless you find some obscure record store like the one in High Fidelity...but they'll probably chase you out of the store if you ask for it...or beat you with a phone. Either way, buy it online.
Posted: Thu, 28th Aug 2003, 8:06pm
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Hey man, now i see you want smoe affordable ed programs. Go with blender, completly free, amazing 3d program. couple of mb. i dont use it my self. i have tried it out. seems really nice and profess. I mean the thing was gonna be used in conjunction with playsation 2 *not entierly sure about it* all i know they were very intrested in it. Great Amsterdam company keeping it real as it were lol. I think its probably the best free 3d tool you can use. and is like nothing to d/l anyway heres the link!www.blender.org
Posted: Thu, 28th Aug 2003, 8:37pm
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Gracias, mi amigo. I just downloaded it. I'll check it out asap. Appreciate your quick and helpful response!!!
Posted: Thu, 28th Aug 2003, 10:53pm
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Hey all, the actually movie should be up this thursday (not 2day).. so next thurs.. um... u know what I mean, ha.
Posted: Thu, 28th Aug 2003, 10:58pm
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Well. Hmmm. What I saw looked nice, but somewhat typical. I have yet to see a fanfilm that actually has martial arts on the level of The Matrix. Yours seemed more like fist fighting rather than martial arts. I dont like how you used a parking lot, or a forest. Why would someone go into a forest in the matrix. I feel the same about the muzzle flashes.
Also I didn't see any footage of in the real world. Really if your going to make a matrix fanfilm include the real world in the plot.
Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2003, 12:40am
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That's why it's a trailer. Wait till the real film comes out before you make judgements. From watching this trailer, how do you derrive that the forest is in the Matrix? Do you know why we picked a gigantic empty parking lot? Did you see any of the full fight sequences? No, cause I didn't put them in there. The final film is 14 minutes long. This trailer is one minute, and as is already mentioned, a dissappointing 11 seconds are titles.
Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2003, 1:08am
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If you're waiting for a no budget film to have Matrix quality fights...(ajjax shakes head)
Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2003, 1:31am
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There are 32 gunshots, 4 kicks, 4 counts of acrobatics, and 5 punches...
Sounds like a fist fight to me.
Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2003, 4:02am
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Overall i though it was fairly good, can't wait to see the whole thing though. Something that really caught my eyes was the quality of the picture. Keep up the great work.
Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2003, 4:07pm
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Yeah, I dont have so much time but, COOL
Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2003, 6:22pm
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Yea Kyeju, you cant say "why would some1 go into the matrix in a forest blah blah blah" or whatever the hell u said, until u know the plot. Things will fall in place. And u saw a lil bit of the movie. Its not just a fist fight. U can trust me on that, on a count of how many times i got accidentally hit/kicked... ha. This trailer was just something to put on here untill the the actual movie came out. We just got anxious. You filmmakers know how it is, when you make something u feel like u have to show SOMEBODY part of it ha, waiting sux and kills me. This coming thurs all of every1's questions and doubts will be cleared up.... you'll see...
p.s. and how do u know that we didnt include the real world in the plot, your already telling us what we should have done w/o knowing anything???
no hard feelings or anything cuz u seem cool as hell and we've talked before but i just hate when people jump to conclusions.
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Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2003, 6:24pm
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SHame it's based on the matrix really, but quite a kewl lil' trailer, i look forward to seeing the full thing, if my 56k can cope...
Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2003, 7:58pm
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Ok I'm sorry. I should've taken another look. This seems like it will be a well put together movie. If you guys need any fx help pm me. Also I have some whooshing sounds from etm if you want them.
Posted: Sat, 30th Aug 2003, 4:10am
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Yeah just to clarify one thing. i hope you know the matrix is the like earth as we know it. It is a program, that is planet earth our reality. so basically the forest or a parking lot, or even a bathroom can be inside the matrix.....(tut tut tut, and i thought people would have taken notice)
Posted: Sat, 30th Aug 2003, 5:02am
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Yes I know that the matrix is earth as we know it. What I am saying is why would someone who is freed, waste their time in a forest. They are in the Matrix to find the one and to eventually destroy it. It is dangerous to be in the Matrix for too long as Sentinals could attack the ship,or agents could find the people in the matrix. There would also be no available hardline to get out of the matrix if they did get in trouble with agents.
But if this is a sparring program or a simulation then that's logical. Ghost goes into the zen garden to relax. I totally understand, lack of locations. Hell, the war film I'm in post production with we filmed in areas only hundreds of feet away from eachother when they are supposed to be miles away from eachother. Since this is a teaser trailer I shouldnt have laid such harsh terms given that the trailer displayed very few plot details. You're visuals arent bad so if you have a good story to match it then you're a winner.