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Making People Cyborgs!

Posted: Wed, 3rd Sep 2003, 10:52am

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Pooky

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hey im making a movie where i need the actor to be kinda half man half robot. how could i achieve this?
Posted: Wed, 3rd Sep 2003, 10:57am

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Wow, you won't believe this, but as I type this i'm rendering a scene with a guy with robot legs and one arm.

I'll put the wmv of it up, and if it's what you want i'll explain how I did it.
Posted: Wed, 3rd Sep 2003, 11:12am

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b4uask30male

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This is my first try at the effect.

http://superteam.biz/robot.wmv

6 secounds long
Posted: Wed, 3rd Sep 2003, 3:32pm

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b4, you wont believe it. Im also rendering my file with a man that is half man, half robot!! Ahhh! Deja vĂș!!!
Posted: Wed, 3rd Sep 2003, 4:38pm

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b4uask30male

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Cool, any chance of seeing it ?

I'm not that happy with mine sad
Posted: Wed, 3rd Sep 2003, 4:56pm

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WOW b4, that's a pretty good test, gonna be honest and say it needs a little tweaking, wasn't too sure about the animation on the legs, but well done none-the-less, was interested, did u do it like T3? where they covered arnie in green where they wanted robot bits? or did u just composite it over the top?

TMM
Posted: Wed, 3rd Sep 2003, 6:02pm

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Hi thanks for the feedback, i agree the legs are the problem

Infact I only wanted his hand to be robotic, and i got him the wear a blue washing up glove, but then when he turned up he had blue jeans and no army trousers fitted him, so the idea was mask out his legs and replace, the same went for the arm.

I'm not going to have him with the legs now, just the arm and I'll change the blue jeans to green in After Effects.

thanks for the comments
Posted: Wed, 3rd Sep 2003, 6:08pm

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Hey guys,

You won't believe this, but I'm rendering a character that is half man, half robot, and half plant! crazy eek cool
Posted: Wed, 3rd Sep 2003, 6:11pm

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TMM

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so he is half of 3 things? that makes 1 and a half, not 1...

U mean 1 third plant, 1 third man, and 1 third machine...

TMM razz razz razz razz
Posted: Wed, 3rd Sep 2003, 9:04pm

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Well b4 first tell me what u need to make that, also, i would like a robotic implant thingy on the head...
Posted: Wed, 3rd Sep 2003, 9:18pm

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Again, I was duped into thinking this was going to be a tutorial. Arg.
Posted: Wed, 3rd Sep 2003, 10:02pm

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Pooky

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Aculag wrote:

Again, I was duped into thinking this was going to be a tutorial. Arg.
?????
Posted: Thu, 4th Sep 2003, 12:16am

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nice b4! That looks pretty good. The arms and legs are nicely modeled and lit. I think the legs will seem better once sound is added. That way they will make more sense.
Posted: Thu, 4th Sep 2003, 12:34am

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CANT ANYBODY HELP ME?!?
Posted: Thu, 4th Sep 2003, 12:43am

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ok, i think i should specify:

1. i would like the actor to have a head implant thingamajig and, if not too time consuming, a robotic arm.

2. please i would like details! ex: what programs, procedures...etc.

3. the actor is going to be on screen for probably up to 1 minute, so it would help if it didnt take 5 hours for 2 seconds... razz

4. this doesnt have to be all on the computer... it can be props (once again, i would like to know how to make it then)

thx lol hugegrin
Posted: Thu, 4th Sep 2003, 6:55am

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To make the scene I did I used POSER and After Effects.

In Poser there are a selection of robots built in, I chose the one I wanted and clicked hide on the body parts I didn't want, then I imported my avi footage ( just like alamdv ) then I matched the Arm and legs to where they are on my actor.
The hard part was to keep it all on one as the actor walked around and came back into shot, once I done that I rendered just the arm and leg ( without the avi background ) then opened it in after effects.
I layed the arm and leg over the avi again, but used masks to make it look like it was behind the other actors.
The whole test took about 3 hours including rendering.
Posted: Thu, 4th Sep 2003, 10:48am

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Pooky

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Poser costs how much?
Posted: Thu, 4th Sep 2003, 11:42am

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b4uask30male

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don't mean to sound rude, but you could have just checked on the web for a price. confused

there are different numbers out now.
poser 3 you can get free on magazines
poser 4 has an add on called pro pack ( so the price depends on what you buy )
the newest is Poser 5.

my advice is to download the demo ( I can't tell you the name of the website as the company has sold it a few times, i'm lost to who ownes it now. )
I've been using poser solid for a year, have a mess around with the demo and if you think you animate your scene with it then buy it.
Posted: Thu, 4th Sep 2003, 12:20pm

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Kyeju, please get rid of that enormous sig.

And that robot test looks pretty good - - nice flow and motion - -
Posted: Thu, 4th Sep 2003, 7:24pm

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I was going to start filming a robot scene for my first movie tomorrow. Very interesting this thread to be honest, but I think its a little late for me to make drastic changes to my story.

I was just going to dress my actor in a shell suit or something like that. I'm a no fuss kinda guy smile
Posted: Fri, 5th Sep 2003, 1:47pm

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Sweet baby Jesus and the orphans!

What's happened to T'Cup!??!


Looks good, B4, I agree about the legs though.

Paul
Posted: Fri, 5th Sep 2003, 8:21pm

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Pooky

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any way to get peeps cyborgs with AE, Photoshop, Premiere, AlamDV (my friend's house smile? if not, then i have another Possibility: (see next post)
Posted: Fri, 5th Sep 2003, 8:24pm

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Pooky

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make it so that a actor opens the other (the cyborg) to reveal robot implants and stuff. same thing: AE, Photoshop, Premiere, AlamDV?

PS if u cant do it with those programs, then what do u need?
Posted: Fri, 5th Sep 2003, 10:52pm

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There is no definate answer to your question(...which program can make a person into a robot?) You are going to have to use a little old fashion thing called creativity and ingenuity. There is no <Create Cyborg> tool in any program. If you don't know how to use 3d Modeling sofware, then I am afraid that you are not going to be able to acheive this affect through use of computer sofware. Something that would look better and would be infinately easier to do would to be make Cyborg props that your actor can wear. With a little creativity and artistry, this could look very cool.
Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2003, 1:12am

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yeah guess you're right... any prop suggestion? u no, tutorials n stuff lol
Posted: Sun, 7th Sep 2003, 9:24pm

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anybody?
Posted: Sun, 7th Sep 2003, 10:26pm

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Why don't YOU look? http://www.yahoo.com
Posted: Sun, 7th Sep 2003, 10:37pm

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www.google.com


www.altavista.com


www.mamma.com

tard
Posted: Sun, 7th Sep 2003, 11:04pm

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rofl

i did
Posted: Sun, 7th Sep 2003, 11:18pm

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THEN USE YOUR BRAIN INSTEAD OF YOUR COMPUTER!!!

Cover some cardboard in tin foil and put some impressions on it and cover your person's arm with it. How old are you? My guess is you still have time to perfect this method. If you're trying to do this for a movie with a deadline on it, you're wasting time asking for help, when you could be doing it all yourself. Actually, you're wasting your time anyway. Asking for a tutorial on how to make a prop? Have you ever used a tool in your life? Making a cyber arm couldn't possibly be as hard as you're making it out to be. Just leave your computer for a little while, and draw some plans, go to the hardware store, buy some pvc, or something. Just BE CREATIVE.
Posted: Sun, 7th Sep 2003, 11:57pm

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alright alright sry for wasting your time
Posted: Mon, 8th Sep 2003, 12:05am

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i liked ur old avatar better... the new one is too... twisted
Posted: Mon, 8th Sep 2003, 12:10am

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Well, I'm.. biggrin , so....
Posted: Mon, 8th Sep 2003, 9:15pm

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lol
Posted: Mon, 8th Sep 2003, 9:42pm

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That was supposed to be said in a kinda debonair, Sean Connery way. You know what I mean.